From aaron.toponce at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 06:27:33 2010 From: aaron.toponce at gmail.com (Aaron Toponce) Date: Mon Mar 1 06:27:38 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Google Wave In-Reply-To: <773c89341002262138s37f066d5tc139b341033d4a64@mail.gmail.com> References: <1265670407.3170.33.camel@strouthos> <773c89341002262138s37f066d5tc139b341033d4a64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B8BC0C5.7080105@gmail.com> Shawn Willden wrote: > Got any Google Voice invites? I'm looking for one of those. Sent -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O O . O . . O O O O . O O O -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100301/16b3b31e/attachment.htm From white.armor at gmail.com Tue Mar 2 22:24:13 2010 From: white.armor at gmail.com (Jordan Schatz) Date: Tue Mar 2 22:35:40 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: OT Anyone know the proprietary language SSML? In-Reply-To: <2e84de771002281059k50a88a88w85ca19e6aa199f3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100227215754.GA13290@gryfalcon> <2e84de771002281059k50a88a88w85ca19e6aa199f3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100303052413.GA13407@gryfalcon> > I've worked _very_ briefly with SSML, as long as you mean speech synthesis > markup language. Actually I was after info on another language called SSML; Intuit is (licensing, or purchased?) some technology called ProStores, I believe it was either previously owned, or developed at eBay, and it implements its own language that they call SSML. It looks like a pretty dumb language, no user created functions, classes, or objects, just basic procedural keywords and some built in objects. > I guess a good question to ask would be: What is your question? Why are you > asking? What do you need help with? I have a friend / client who asked me to complete his businesses website and ecomerce tools, and they are all built with SSML/ProStores. I was wondering if anyone knew enough about it to give some pointers, or maybe take the project if they where interested. -Jordan From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 11:19:44 2010 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Thu Mar 4 11:19:52 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: SLLUG Daytime: Wednesday, March 10 @ 11:30am - Node.js Message-ID: This month's presentation is going to be awesome!! Shane Hansen will be spending time with us over lunch (bring your brown bag) at BetalLoftSLC talking about node.js. Node.js - building massively parallel applications with javascript and epoll Node.js [http://nodejs.org/] is a framework for rapidly building massively parallel network applications using non-blocking io. It's built on the performant v8 javascript engine [http://code.google.com/p/v8/] which compiles javascript to machine code at runtime. Node is similar in design to systems like Ruby's EventMachine [http://rubyforge.org/projects/eventmachine/] or python's twisted [http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/]. It's suitable for building chat-like protocols, comet servers, mmo game servers, etc. This session will cover some of the basics of how to build and install node.js as well as analyze some demo programs. If time permits, I might talk a little bit about python's twisted and compare some programs written using twisted/node.js About Shane Hansen: I'm a Software Engineer working on Backcountry.com's replatforming teams. Prior to that I worked on projects ranging from compliance tracking software for the goverment to building mathematical models for reflectometry to immune system modeling. I'm interested in open source software, web standards, high performance computing and application architecture Meeting Location: BetaLoft (http://betaloftslc.com) is located at 357 W 200 S. Upstairs in Suite 201. Salt Lake City, UT, 84101 Betaloft is a coworking space in the heart of downtown Salt Lake City founded by Drew Tyler. We are a community of freelancers, independents and work-from-home people, who have an interest in getting out of our dull work day and participating in a community that?s designed to support and encourage people who make a living doing what they love. We provide communication tools, events (social and educational), as well as a physical space to work and collaborate. See you all there! Clint From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 18:19:18 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Thu Mar 4 18:19:26 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: SLLUG Daytime: Wednesday, March 10 @ 11:30am - Node.js In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: will anyone be passing close enought to gti ( google maps: http://tinyurl.com/ycwtkwv ) to give me a ride there? On 3/4/10, Clint Savage wrote: > This month's presentation is going to be awesome!! Shane Hansen will > be spending time with us over lunch (bring your brown bag) at > BetalLoftSLC talking about node.js. > > Node.js - building massively parallel applications with javascript and epoll > > Node.js [http://nodejs.org/] is a framework for rapidly building > massively parallel network applications using non-blocking io. It's > built on the performant v8 javascript engine > [http://code.google.com/p/v8/] which compiles javascript to machine > code at runtime. Node is similar in design to systems like Ruby's > EventMachine [http://rubyforge.org/projects/eventmachine/] or python's > twisted [http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/]. It's suitable for building > chat-like protocols, comet servers, mmo game servers, etc. This > session will cover some of the basics of how to build and install > node.js as well as analyze some demo programs. > > If time permits, I might talk a little bit about python's twisted and > compare some programs written using twisted/node.js > > About Shane Hansen: > > I'm a Software Engineer working on Backcountry.com's replatforming > teams. Prior to that I worked on projects ranging from compliance > tracking software for the goverment to building mathematical models > for reflectometry to immune system modeling. I'm interested in open > source software, web standards, high performance computing and > application architecture > > Meeting Location: > > BetaLoft (http://betaloftslc.com) is located at 357 W 200 S. Upstairs > in Suite 201. Salt Lake City, UT, 84101 > > Betaloft is a coworking space in the heart of downtown Salt Lake City > founded by Drew Tyler. > > We are a community of freelancers, independents and work-from-home > people, who have an interest in getting out of our dull work day and > participating in a community that?s designed to support and encourage > people who make a living doing what they love. > > We provide communication tools, events (social and educational), as > well as a physical space to work and collaborate. > > See you all there! > > Clint > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster From seth at eseth.com Fri Mar 5 00:48:34 2010 From: seth at eseth.com (Seth House) Date: Fri Mar 5 01:42:25 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: SLLUG Daytime: Wednesday, March 10 @ 11:30am - Node.js In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 18:19, Christian Horne wrote: > will anyone be passing close enought to gti ( google maps: > http://tinyurl.com/ycwtkwv ) to give me a ride there? Yeah, I'm about 4 miles away and you're right on my way there. - whiteinge From ricardo.slacker at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 09:17:50 2010 From: ricardo.slacker at gmail.com (Ricardo) Date: Wed Mar 10 09:18:01 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: SLLUG Daytime: Wednesday, March 10 @ 11:30am - Node.js In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <614c1081003100817j38126f34l29d431dbe66ad5d4@mail.gmail.com> Hi Guys, Fair warning. My wife has had a really nasty flu the last couple days and I've been taking care of her so I didn't have time to make a presentation. For today I'm going to be 1. presenting ry@tinyclouds.org's original slideshow from jsconf 2. showing a benchmark of node's performance 3. showing some sample code that I wrote for a high performance analytics project. Thanks, --Shane On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Seth House wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 18:19, Christian Horne > wrote: > > will anyone be passing close enought to gti ( google maps: > > http://tinyurl.com/ycwtkwv ) to give me a ride there? > > Yeah, I'm about 4 miles away and you're right on my way there. > - whiteinge > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From ricardo.slacker at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 15:07:46 2010 From: ricardo.slacker at gmail.com (Ricardo) Date: Wed Mar 10 15:07:55 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: SLLUG Daytime: Wednesday, March 10 @ 11:30am - Node.js In-Reply-To: <614c1081003100817j38126f34l29d431dbe66ad5d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <614c1081003100817j38126f34l29d431dbe66ad5d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <614c1081003101407l6784add4ka691bf1e476f621e@mail.gmail.com> For those of you that missed today's meeting, the slides I used are from ryan's original jsconf presentation: http://nodejs.org/jsconf.pdf --Shane On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Ricardo wrote: > Hi Guys, > Fair warning. My wife has had a really nasty flu the last couple days and > I've been taking care of her so I didn't have time to make a presentation. > For today I'm going to be > 1. presenting ry@tinyclouds.org's original slideshow from jsconf > 2. showing a benchmark of node's performance > 3. showing some sample code that I wrote for a high performance analytics > project. > > Thanks, > --Shane > > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Seth House wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 18:19, Christian Horne >> wrote: >> > will anyone be passing close enought to gti ( google maps: >> > http://tinyurl.com/ycwtkwv ) to give me a ride there? >> >> Yeah, I'm about 4 miles away and you're right on my way there. >> - whiteinge >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100310/5055c57a/attachment.htm From white.armor at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 17:30:39 2010 From: white.armor at gmail.com (Jordan Schatz) Date: Wed Mar 10 17:40:21 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: mindmapping software In-Reply-To: <4B981259.4080208@gmail.com> References: <4B981259.4080208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100311003039.GA5655@gryfalcon> > So.. what are you guys using :-) Its probably not quite what you had in mind, but I have tried several mind mapping tools, and found that emacs org mode does a better job for me. Its an advanced outliner, you could probably do a client server (emacs server running somewhere, emacsclients connecting to it). -Jordan From fozz at hypermoo.com Fri Mar 12 16:14:29 2010 From: fozz at hypermoo.com (Doran L. Barton) Date: Fri Mar 12 16:14:45 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: FS: A bunch of SATA hard drives Message-ID: <201003121614.30163.fozz@hypermoo.com> I have a bunch (count them: 8) of used SATA drives that have been pulled from working systems. They all pass SMART tests. I don't have any use for them. Maybe you do. I have the specs on each drive listed below including make, model, size, hours of use, as well as price. Some people with older systems may be interested in whether or not the drive has a 4-pin molex power connector in addition to the standard SATA power connector. Let me know OFF LIST if you're interested in any of these. I'll give SLLUGgers about a week to respond before I throw these on eBay. If you're interested in more than one, make me an offer for the group. I've got some 1U and 4U server cases coming soon. Make: Seagate Family: 7200.8 Model: ST3250823AS SN: 4ND0W0WS Size: 250GB Hours: 31167 Molex power: N Price: $20 Make: Seagate Family: 7200.8 SN: Model: ST3250823AS 4ND0W0TW Size: 250GB Hours: 31168 Molex power: N Price: $20 Make: Western Digital Family: RE16 Model: WDC WD2500YD-01NVB1 SN: WD-WCANK3172733 Size: 250GB Hours: 26117 Molex power: Y Price: $25 Make: Seagate Family: 7200.8 Model: ST3250823AS SN: 4ND0W4TX Size: 250GB Hours: 5897 Molex power: N Price: $20 Make: Western Digital Family: RE16 Model: WDC WD2500YD-01NVB1 SN: WD-WCANK3981553 Size: 250GB Hours: 26097 Molex power: Y Price: $25 Make: Western Digital Family: SE Model: WDC WD1600JD-55HBB0 SN: WD-WCAL93504608 Size: 160GB Hours: 24844 Molex power: Y Price: $15 Make: Western Digital Family: SE16 Model: WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 SN: WD-WCANK1538626 Size: 250GB Hours: 6753 Molex power: Y Price: $20 Make: Western Digital Family: SE16 Model: WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 SN: WD-WCANK1551438 Size: 250GB Hours: 6707 Molex power: Y Price: $20 -- Doran L. Barton - Hypermoo Inc. - - 801-520-9875 Open source consulting, custom development, systems/network administration "I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way." -- English film subtitle seen in Hong Kong From jfriend31 at comcast.net Fri Mar 12 16:54:59 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Fri Mar 12 16:55:07 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: FS: A bunch of SATA hard drives In-Reply-To: <201003121614.30163.fozz@hypermoo.com> Message-ID: <1729110981.262561268438099722.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> i want one of the $20 drives. jack how do i get it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doran L. Barton" To: sllug-members@sllug.org Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:14:29 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: [sllug-members]: FS: A bunch of SATA hard drives I have a bunch (count them: 8) of used SATA drives that have been pulled from working systems. They all pass SMART tests. I don't have any use for them. Maybe you do. I have the specs on each drive listed below including make, model, size, hours of use, as well as price. Some people with older systems may be interested in whether or not the drive has a 4-pin molex power connector in addition to the standard SATA power connector. Let me know OFF LIST if you're interested in any of these. I'll give SLLUGgers about a week to respond before I throw these on eBay. If you're interested in more than one, make me an offer for the group. I've got some 1U and 4U server cases coming soon. Make: Seagate Family: 7200.8 Model: ST3250823AS SN: 4ND0W0WS Size: 250GB Hours: 31167 Molex power: N Price: $20 Make: Seagate Family: 7200.8 SN: Model: ST3250823AS 4ND0W0TW Size: 250GB Hours: 31168 Molex power: N Price: $20 Make: Western Digital Family: RE16 Model: WDC WD2500YD-01NVB1 SN: WD-WCANK3172733 Size: 250GB Hours: 26117 Molex power: Y Price: $25 Make: Seagate Family: 7200.8 Model: ST3250823AS SN: 4ND0W4TX Size: 250GB Hours: 5897 Molex power: N Price: $20 Make: Western Digital Family: RE16 Model: WDC WD2500YD-01NVB1 SN: WD-WCANK3981553 Size: 250GB Hours: 26097 Molex power: Y Price: $25 Make: Western Digital Family: SE Model: WDC WD1600JD-55HBB0 SN: WD-WCAL93504608 Size: 160GB Hours: 24844 Molex power: Y Price: $15 Make: Western Digital Family: SE16 Model: WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 SN: WD-WCANK1538626 Size: 250GB Hours: 6753 Molex power: Y Price: $20 Make: Western Digital Family: SE16 Model: WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 SN: WD-WCANK1551438 Size: 250GB Hours: 6707 Molex power: Y Price: $20 -- Doran L. Barton - Hypermoo Inc. - - 801-520-9875 Open source consulting, custom development, systems/network administration "I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way." -- English film subtitle seen in Hong Kong ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100312/997d8c78/attachment.html From ecantwell at bluehost.com Fri Mar 12 17:00:30 2010 From: ecantwell at bluehost.com (Erick Cantwell) Date: Fri Mar 12 17:00:32 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: FS: A bunch of SATA hard drives In-Reply-To: <1729110981.262561268438099722.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1729110981.262561268438099722.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4B9AD59E.2070601@bluehost.com> On 03/12/2010 04:54 PM, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > i want one of the $20 drives. > jack > how do i get it? > > Let me know OFF LIST if you're interested in any of these. I'll give > SLLUGgers > about a week to respond before I throw these on eBay. If you're > interested in > more than one, make me an offer for the group. > By replying OFF LIST as the original poster requested. Thank you, Erick Cantwell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100312/be41f150/attachment.htm From mitchk at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 10:22:18 2010 From: mitchk at gmail.com (Brad Zobrist) Date: Mon Mar 15 10:22:38 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Job Posting: Sr. Storage Administrator, Ancestry.com Message-ID: <903d7fbf1003151022m51e4335ep2b02d7934c82bd11@mail.gmail.com> We have another opening in our Storage Admin group. Please email me bzobrist@ancestry.com if you are interested. Thanks, Brad Here is the posting. SENIOR STORAGE ADMINISTRATOR Ancestry.com Inc. is the world's leading network of family-focused interactive businesses ? encompassing Ancestry.com, the Ancestry.com RootsWeb community, Ancestry.com DNA and Ancestry.com Family Tree Maker?, MyFamily.com and MyCanvas.com. Our mission is to help people discover, preserve and share their family history. The Ancestry.com website is the world's largest online collection of family history resources, covering billions of historical records & photos, maps, images, millions of online family trees and stories. Family history is a journey of discovery. It?s about unlocking the past, getting to know your ancestors and, along the way, discovering your own story. Job Description: The Senior Storage Administrator designs, plans and coordinates the install of all storage infrastructure, as well as administer and report on the day to day activities. Monitors storage and plans for capacity, capacity upgrades, and reports on and resolves performance issues. Key Responsibilities / Performance Requirements: * Performs day to day administration and monitoring on all installed storage platforms. * Performs SAN management tasks, zoning, LUN masking of various disk types to the appropriate platforms. * Evaluates new technologies, both hardware and software, and recommends these technologies to management as necessary. * Evaluates and implements third party software products to support the above listed tasks. * Provides technical expertise to architect and support applications and technologies in a large scale 24x7 environment. * Ensures all storage systems provide highest commitment to operational standards and controls. * Provides leadership, mentoring and training to other administrators. Required Skills: * BS in Computer Science or related field of study. * Five to seven years experience in system and storage administration, SAN and NAS administration and configuration in a large 24x7 environment. * Experience with switches, including zoning and command line server administration. * Experience with 3par, Netapp, Isilon, Nexsan, and Brocade preferred. * Experience working with and managing Windows, Linux, Solaris systems. * Experience with a storage provisioning process. * Experience with host level HBA configuration. * Experience with Disaster Recovery (D/R) solutions. * Excellent communication skills. * High initiative and ability to work independently and according to strict schedules. Here is a link to the posting. http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/job-JSY6Q8EPFA7;_ylt=AlB4QITuJY0j0ICliREMO.j6Q6IX?source=SRP&core={%22offset%22%3A%2230%22%2C%22detailed%22%3Afalse%2C%22sort%22%3A{%22type%22%3A%22relevancy%22%2C%22reverse%22%3Afalse}} From marc at sllug.org Mon Mar 15 10:56:06 2010 From: marc at sllug.org (Marc Christensen) Date: Mon Mar 15 10:56:09 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Postponing SLLUG one week till the 24th Message-ID: <4B9E74B6.4070605@sllug.org> Hey all, due to personal illness and conflicts we're moving the SLLUG meeting one week to the 24th of March. Thanks everyone! See you next week!!! -- Marc From johndotallen at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 11:43:30 2010 From: johndotallen at gmail.com (john allen) Date: Mon Mar 15 11:43:38 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: PLC environment in Linux Message-ID: <4cefbb5d1003151143j7ca47f86q88631051752c2f64@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I am trying to delete my windows partition from my dual boot system. I am yet to find a good tool set for PLC programming in Linux. Basically, it should have a good cross compiler and a simulator. Can you suggest any tool? BTW, I have checked MatPLC, I need something better. PLCmodule-C32 looks promising, do we have anyone on this list with some experience on these? -- John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100316/766aa00a/attachment.htm From white.armor at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 12:17:40 2010 From: white.armor at gmail.com (Jordan Schatz) Date: Mon Mar 15 12:20:25 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: PLC environment in Linux In-Reply-To: <4cefbb5d1003151143j7ca47f86q88631051752c2f64@mail.gmail.com> References: <4cefbb5d1003151143j7ca47f86q88631051752c2f64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100315191740.GA9841@merlin.selecthearing> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:13:30AM +0530, john allen wrote: > I am trying to delete my windows partition from my dual boot system. I am > yet to find a good tool set for PLC programming in Linux. Basically, it > should have a good cross compiler and a simulator. I assume then that there is a tool that runs on windows, and this is the last thing keeping windows around? I don't do any PLC programming, but you might use virtualbox to run windows in a virtual machine. I do alot of web development, and thats how I test the different versions of IE, run each one in virtualbox. -Jordan From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 12:45:07 2010 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon Mar 15 12:45:17 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Postponing SLLUG one week till the 24th In-Reply-To: <4B9E74B6.4070605@sllug.org> References: <4B9E74B6.4070605@sllug.org> Message-ID: Is there a topic already? Clint On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Marc Christensen wrote: > Hey all, due to personal illness and conflicts we're moving the SLLUG > meeting one week to the 24th of March. > > Thanks everyone! See you next week!!! > > -- > Marc > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Mon Mar 15 16:58:07 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Mon Mar 15 16:58:17 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: PLC environment in Linux In-Reply-To: <20100315191740.GA9841@merlin.selecthearing> References: <4cefbb5d1003151143j7ca47f86q88631051752c2f64@mail.gmail.com> <20100315191740.GA9841@merlin.selecthearing> Message-ID: try your windows version on wine before you go all-out and incur the extra overhead of a VM On 3/15/10, Jordan Schatz wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:13:30AM +0530, john allen wrote: >> I am trying to delete my windows partition from my dual boot system. I am >> yet to find a good tool set for PLC programming in Linux. Basically, it >> should have a good cross compiler and a simulator. > I assume then that there is a tool that runs on windows, and this is the > last thing keeping windows around? I don't do any PLC programming, but > you might use virtualbox to run windows in a virtual machine. I do alot > of web development, and thats how I test the different versions of IE, > run each one in virtualbox. > > -Jordan > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster From i_am_nitrogen at hotmail.com Mon Mar 15 21:29:59 2010 From: i_am_nitrogen at hotmail.com (Mike Bourgeous) Date: Mon Mar 15 21:33:56 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: PLC environment in Linux In-Reply-To: <4cefbb5d1003151143j7ca47f86q88631051752c2f64@mail.gmail.com> References: <4cefbb5d1003151143j7ca47f86q88631051752c2f64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Out of curiosity, what method do you use to write programs for your PLCs (i.e. functional block, ladder logic, code, etc.)? Mike ________________________________ > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:13:30 +0530 > From: johndotallen@gmail.com > To: sllug-members@sllug.org > Subject: [sllug-members]: PLC environment in Linux > > Hi! > > I am trying to delete my windows partition from my dual boot system. I am yet to find a good tool set for PLC programming in Linux. Basically, it should have a good cross compiler and a simulator. > > Can you suggest any tool? BTW, I have checked MatPLC, I need something better. PLCmodule-C32 looks promising, do we have anyone on this list with some experience on these? > > > -- > John _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 10:20:29 2010 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Tue Mar 16 10:20:39 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: 1GIG Fiber in Utah through google In-Reply-To: <17f9906e1002150220r1a5dcbbbu8db4cb5b1ee3a374@mail.gmail.com> References: <1266038602.3265.39.camel@matt5.warnocks.org> <1266120631.1931.1359873501@webmail.messagingengine.com> <148f6bb31002132027q681872e2i85eb9d55111aaf2c@mail.gmail.com> <31CC65236996F747B2B4343C9EAD953A05B1FEB72A@UTAEXCHC1MB1.uta.cog.ut.us> <4B78F079.10909@gmail.com> <17f9906e1002150220r1a5dcbbbu8db4cb5b1ee3a374@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f932a4a1003161020g4978300evd5361add40e6bd09@mail.gmail.com> Well, the problem with Utopia is, they require cities to get involved to the point where they have to pay into it to become "member cities". Unfortunately, for one reason or another, not all of the city municipalities have the means to do so. Google fiber on the other hand, doesn't require that kind of commitment from each city's municipality, as it is all being laid down and operated directly through Google. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:20 AM, ANDY wrote: > UTOPIA has not been fully embraced, why Google Fiber? > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know there are some government issue and such too, but at least something like this seems possible to me Clint From johndotallen at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 11:32:05 2010 From: johndotallen at gmail.com (john allen) Date: Tue Mar 16 11:36:04 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: PLC environment in Linux In-Reply-To: References: <4cefbb5d1003151143j7ca47f86q88631051752c2f64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4cefbb5d1003161132u54c56907wd84a0d2c1ede738f@mail.gmail.com> Basically, I am looking for a simulator. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Mike Bourgeous wrote: > > Out of curiosity, what method do you use to write programs for your PLCs > (i.e. functional block, ladder logic, code, etc.)? > > Mike > > ________________________________ > > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:13:30 +0530 > > From: johndotallen@gmail.com > > To: sllug-members@sllug.org > > Subject: [sllug-members]: PLC environment in Linux > > > > Hi! > > > > I am trying to delete my windows partition from my dual boot system. I am > yet to find a good tool set for PLC programming in Linux. Basically, it > should have a good cross compiler and a simulator. > > > > Can you suggest any tool? BTW, I have checked MatPLC, I need something > better. PLCmodule-C32 looks promising, do we have anyone on this list with > some experience on these? > > > > > > -- > > John > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From mmurdock at kimballequipment.com Tue Mar 16 12:12:55 2010 From: mmurdock at kimballequipment.com (Mat Murdock) Date: Tue Mar 16 12:14:03 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: More house cleaning (OT) Message-ID: <4B9FD837.8010609@kimballequipment.com> I have 3 - 3com OfficeConnect ISDN modems. - Free I have 3 - 3com SuperStack II 100 - TX HUBS. - Free All of this stuff will be thrown out today if nobody wants it. Mat -- Mat Murdock Kimball Equipment Company 801.972.2121 mmurdock@kimballequipment.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From thatch45 at gmail.com Tue Mar 16 13:19:28 2010 From: thatch45 at gmail.com (Thomas S Hatch) Date: Tue Mar 16 13:33:11 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: 1GIG Fiber in Utah through google In-Reply-To: References: <1266038602.3265.39.camel@matt5.warnocks.org> <1266120631.1931.1359873501@webmail.messagingengine.com> <148f6bb31002132027q681872e2i85eb9d55111aaf2c@mail.gmail.com> <31CC65236996F747B2B4343C9EAD953A05B1FEB72A@UTAEXCHC1MB1.uta.cog.ut.us> <4B78F079.10909@gmail.com> <17f9906e1002150220r1a5dcbbbu8db4cb5b1ee3a374@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6172c17e1003161319w45802c31s9441807ee56e6c68@mail.gmail.com> I think that the benefit UTOPIA is to Google, I think, would be for google to buy UTOPIA, the problem thats left is the debt that UTOPIA has to the member cities. I highly doubt that the debt UTOPIA has is worth the network. I say, if Google came in, they would need to buy the raw UTOPIA network, and then sever themselves from the long term political obligation and just use the existing network. The last problem I see here is that the network is almost 100% likely to have been constructed in such a way and with a topology that Google doesn't want to use, (if I am not mistaken UTOPIA used a ring based topology). All that said, there may be a way for Google to come in and save fiber in Utah. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Clint Savage wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:20 AM, ANDY wrote: > > UTOPIA has not been fully embraced, why Google Fiber? > > Seems to me that Google Fiber and UTOPIA can go well together. I > would suggest that Google and UTOPIA would work together. UTOPIA > being the line provider, Google providing ISP services and funding. I > know there are some government issue and such too, but at least > something like this seems possible to me > > Clint > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100316/e7ff3d62/attachment.htm From ricardo.slacker at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 08:29:43 2010 From: ricardo.slacker at gmail.com (Ricardo) Date: Thu Mar 18 08:29:53 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: SLLUG Daytime: Wednesday, March 10 @ 11:30am - Node.js In-Reply-To: <614c1081003101407l6784add4ka691bf1e476f621e@mail.gmail.com> References: <614c1081003100817j38126f34l29d431dbe66ad5d4@mail.gmail.com> <614c1081003101407l6784add4ka691bf1e476f621e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <614c1081003180829lbec22c0ja4519c3b9ccb4ae5@mail.gmail.com> During the presentation last week. I had a problem with ab hanging while benchmarking node. Someone mentioned that they had seen that problem with ab before, and we kind of moved on. Today I found a good explanation of where the bottleneck lies. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1216267/ab-program-freezes-after-lots-of-requests-why Turns out node makes it really easy to hit networking bottlenecks in the kernel. --Shane On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Ricardo wrote: > For those of you that missed today's meeting, the slides I used are from > ryan's original jsconf presentation: > http://nodejs.org/jsconf.pdf > > --Shane > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Ricardo wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> Fair warning. My wife has had a really nasty flu the last couple days and >> I've been taking care of her so I didn't have time to make a presentation. >> For today I'm going to be >> 1. presenting ry@tinyclouds.org's original slideshow from jsconf >> 2. showing a benchmark of node's performance >> 3. showing some sample code that I wrote for a high performance analytics >> project. >> >> Thanks, >> --Shane >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Seth House wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 18:19, Christian Horne >>> wrote: >>> > will anyone be passing close enought to gti ( google maps: >>> > http://tinyurl.com/ycwtkwv ) to give me a ride there? >>> >>> Yeah, I'm about 4 miles away and you're right on my way there. >>> - whiteinge >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Fri Mar 19 19:29:33 2010 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Fri Mar 19 19:29:37 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: recommendation request In-Reply-To: <4BA43079.503@gmail.com> References: <4BA43079.503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f932a4a1003191929j7cd8f81fnb54f9f2cc6a69074@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, as far as I know, no one has made such a thing yet. My best suggestion, would be to setup TeamViewer through Wine. I have done it before, and it works great in Ubuntu. I'm sure it will work regardless of distro though. I assume the client end would all be running Windows anyway right? Thanks, Justin On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Robert Lewis wrote: > Do you happen to know how Linux commercial paid for support does desktop > sharing? > That is how do they look at the customers remote screen to teach the end > user how to fix things where the remote user can optionally watch and see > what they are doing. I am looking for something that requires *no* router > configuration as these people are not that knowledgeable. This must pass > the Grandpa test. > Many MS programs are available such as crossloop and teamview to do this > sort of thing but > I can't find anything for Linux that is simple to use like those programs. > > Perhaps someone knows someone at SUSE or Ubuntu that might provide advise? > > Cheers, > Bob. > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100319/cd3830de/attachment.html From matthew at azza.com Fri Mar 19 19:32:46 2010 From: matthew at azza.com (Matthew Hatch) Date: Fri Mar 19 19:33:10 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: recommendation request In-Reply-To: <4BA43079.503@gmail.com> References: <4BA43079.503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BA433CE.2070905@azza.com> At Novell, we use Bomgar's software to do our chat / remote session support. I guess it was easier and cheaper than writing our own software to do it. It works really well, however the downside is it is not a free solution and will likely not suit your needs (or anyone's needs outside of enterprise-level support). On 03/19/2010 08:18 PM, Robert Lewis wrote: > Do you happen to know how Linux commercial paid for support does desktop > sharing? > That is how do they look at the customers remote screen to teach the end > user how to fix things where the remote user can optionally watch and > see what they are doing. I am looking for something that requires *no* > router configuration as these people are not that knowledgeable. This > must pass the Grandpa test. > Many MS programs are available such as crossloop and teamview to do this > sort of thing but > I can't find anything for Linux that is simple to use like those programs. > > Perhaps someone knows someone at SUSE or Ubuntu that might provide advise? > > Cheers, > Bob. > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I expect, but cannot check, if it also has the common VNC Server ability to add a client connection (also called "reverse VNC") to a computer that currently has a VNC Viewer running in Listen mode ('vncviewer -listen 5500') and appropriate port-forwarding of TCP5500. If it doesn't support it, supplying the individual with a simple script to either use the normal VNC server (X0vnserver) application or stunnel a connection to the KDE Desktop Sharing might be an option. Chris Brown On 3/19/2010 8:29 PM, Justin Brinkerhoff wrote: > Yeah, as far as I know, no one has made such a thing yet. > > My best suggestion, would be to setup TeamViewer through Wine. I have > done it before, and it works great in Ubuntu. I'm sure it will work > regardless of distro though. > > I assume the client end would all be running Windows anyway right? > > Thanks, > > Justin > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Robert Lewis > wrote: > > Do you happen to know how Linux commercial paid for support does > desktop sharing? > That is how do they look at the customers remote screen to teach > the end user how to fix things where the remote user can > optionally watch and see what they are doing. I am looking for > something that requires *no* router configuration as these people > are not that knowledgeable. This must pass the Grandpa test. > Many MS programs are available such as crossloop and teamview to > do this sort of thing but > I can't find anything for Linux that is simple to use like those > programs. > > Perhaps someone knows someone at SUSE or Ubuntu that might provide > advise? > > Cheers, > Bob. > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net > channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100319/51d49536/attachment.html From sllug at vpxp.com Fri Mar 19 20:15:40 2010 From: sllug at vpxp.com (Chris Brown) Date: Fri Mar 19 20:15:51 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: recommendation request In-Reply-To: <4BA4383C.9020102@vpxp.com> References: <4BA43079.503@gmail.com> <2f932a4a1003191929j7cd8f81fnb54f9f2cc6a69074@mail.gmail.com> <4BA4383C.9020102@vpxp.com> Message-ID: <4BA43DDC.7010500@vpxp.com> I forgot to mention in my prior post, the suggested script would use 'vncconfig -connect' to do the reverse VNC. I'm not positive, but I think it can control X0vncserver as well as Xvnc. Chris Brown On 3/19/2010 8:51 PM, Chris Brown wrote: > Robert, > > KDE has build-in VNC for Remote Desktop Sharing (Gnome may as well). > > It includes Invitations, though I'm sure those would require the user > port-forward proscribed by you request. > > I expect, but cannot check, if it also has the common VNC Server > ability to add a client connection (also called "reverse VNC") to a > computer that currently has a VNC Viewer running in Listen mode > ('vncviewer -listen 5500') and appropriate port-forwarding of TCP5500. > > If it doesn't support it, supplying the individual with a simple > script to either use the normal VNC server (X0vnserver) application or > stunnel a connection to the KDE Desktop Sharing might be an option. > > Chris Brown > > On 3/19/2010 8:29 PM, Justin Brinkerhoff wrote: >> Yeah, as far as I know, no one has made such a thing yet. >> >> My best suggestion, would be to setup TeamViewer through Wine. I have >> done it before, and it works great in Ubuntu. I'm sure it will work >> regardless of distro though. >> >> I assume the client end would all be running Windows anyway right? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Justin >> >> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Robert Lewis > > wrote: >> >> Do you happen to know how Linux commercial paid for support does >> desktop sharing? >> That is how do they look at the customers remote screen to teach >> the end user how to fix things where the remote user can >> optionally watch and see what they are doing. I am looking for >> something that requires *no* router configuration as these people >> are not that knowledgeable. This must pass the Grandpa test. >> Many MS programs are available such as crossloop and teamview to >> do this sort of thing but >> I can't find anything for Linux that is simple to use like those >> programs. >> >> Perhaps someone knows someone at SUSE or Ubuntu that might >> provide advise? >> >> Cheers, >> Bob. >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >> channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> Seehttp://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Seehttp://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100319/97532f3a/attachment.htm From jfriend31 at comcast.net Sat Mar 20 17:18:17 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Sat Mar 20 17:18:33 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: Message-ID: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu 9.10? thank you, jack From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 17:40:27 2010 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Sat Mar 20 17:40:40 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2f932a4a1003201740g19e57a0auc6225120750338dd@mail.gmail.com> Did you create a partition on the hard drive? /dev/sdb is just the device itself, or in other words, the hard drive itself. In order to install or boot anything on the hard drive, you will need a partition, which will show up as /dev/sdb1, etc... On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: > Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA > cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. > > sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: > > Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c > > > how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu 9.10? > > thank you, > > jack > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100320/cef1b1ce/attachment.htm From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 17:42:26 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Sat Mar 20 17:42:36 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 MOUNTPOINTGOESHERE auto user,auto,exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab that should do it. the umask=000 may be unneeded if it's not NTFS. On 3/20/10, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA > cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. > > sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: > > Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c > > > how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu 9.10? > > thank you, > > jack > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 17:43:29 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Sat Mar 20 17:43:38 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: References: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: dang, that was one line when i wrote it. here, split over lines: sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 MOUNTPOINTGOESHERE auto' \ 'user,auto,exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab On 3/20/10, Christian Horne wrote: > sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 MOUNTPOINTGOESHERE auto > user,auto,exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab > > that should do it. the umask=000 may be unneeded if it's not NTFS. > > On 3/20/10, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: >> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA >> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. >> >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c >> >> >> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu >> 9.10? >> >> thank you, >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > > -- > the blendmaster > -- the blendmaster From matt at frozenatom.com Sat Mar 20 17:45:19 2010 From: matt at frozenatom.com (Matt Nelson) Date: Sat Mar 20 18:09:31 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <148f6bb31003201745o6b8d96dbn11ddbc3108f1305f@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: > Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA > cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. > > sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: > > Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c > > > how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu 9.10? > > thank you, > > jack > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the type: localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100320/cfc05773/attachment.html From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 18:37:26 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Sat Mar 20 18:37:35 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <148f6bb31003201745o6b8d96dbn11ddbc3108f1305f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <148f6bb31003201745o6b8d96dbn11ddbc3108f1305f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? :S On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: > >> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA >> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. >> >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c >> >> >> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu >> 9.10? >> >> thank you, >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the type: > > localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" > [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. > -- the blendmaster From jfriend31 at comcast.net Sat Mar 20 19:18:42 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:18:57 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1557227647.3019541269137922658.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> HTML is the Windows file format. jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Horne" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:37:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? :S On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: > >> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA >> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. >> >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c >> >> >> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu >> 9.10? >> >> thank you, >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the type: > > localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" > [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. > -- the blendmaster ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From jfriend31 at comcast.net Sat Mar 20 19:22:05 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:22:13 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1591877932.3020111269138125822.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> yoy are right! NTFS ....hahaha jack how do i designate a mountpoint? make a directory? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Horne" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 6:42:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 MOUNTPOINTGOESHERE auto user,auto,exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab that should do it. the umask=000 may be unneeded if it's not NTFS. On 3/20/10, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA > cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. > > sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: > > Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c > > > how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu 9.10? > > thank you, > > jack > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From jfriend31 at comcast.net Sat Mar 20 19:24:12 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:24:19 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1627241324.3020731269138252713.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> right! i should have said NTFS. jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Horne" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:37:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? :S On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: > >> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA >> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. >> >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c >> >> >> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu >> 9.10? >> >> thank you, >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the type: > > localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" > [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. > -- the blendmaster ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 19:25:39 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:25:47 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <1557227647.3019541269137922658.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1557227647.3019541269137922658.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: no it's not, NTFS is On 3/20/10, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > HTML is the Windows file format. > > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian Horne" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:37:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: > > HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? :S > > On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: >> >>> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA >>> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. >>> >>> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: >>> >>> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes >>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >>> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c >>> >>> >>> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu >>> 9.10? >>> >>> thank you, >>> >>> jack >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >> >> I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the type: >> >> localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" >> [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal >> [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal >> [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal >> >> This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. >> > > > -- > the blendmaster > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 19:26:15 2010 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:26:19 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <1557227647.3019541269137922658.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1557227647.3019541269137922658.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2f932a4a1003201926g57c1f6e4ve73f8b186a4e2437@mail.gmail.com> NTFS is the Windows File System. HTML is a markup language for the web... On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:18 PM, wrote: > HTML is the Windows file format. > > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian Horne" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:37:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: > > HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? :S > > On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: > > > >> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA > >> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. > >> > >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: > >> > >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes > >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > >> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c > >> > >> > >> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu > >> 9.10? > >> > >> thank you, > >> > >> jack > >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > >> sllug-members@sllug.org > >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > >> > > > > I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the type: > > > > localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" > > [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > > > This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. > > > > > -- > the blendmaster > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100320/348d24ad/attachment.htm From jfriend31 at comcast.net Sat Mar 20 19:34:31 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:34:38 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <2f932a4a1003201926g57c1f6e4ve73f8b186a4e2437@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2102581442.3022761269138871225.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> right jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Brinkerhoff" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:26:15 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: NTFS is the Windows File System. HTML is a markup language for the web... On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:18 PM, < jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: HTML is the Windows file format. jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Horne" < blendmaster1024@gmail.com > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" < sllug-members@sllug.org > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:37:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? :S On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson < matt@frozenatom.com > wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, < jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: > >> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA >> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. >> >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c >> >> >> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu >> 9.10? >> >> thank you, >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the type: > > localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" > [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. > -- the blendmaster ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 19:35:00 2010 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:35:06 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <1627241324.3020731269138252713.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1627241324.3020731269138252713.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2f932a4a1003201935l17b48ba9k489fcf9ebbe7b95f@mail.gmail.com> LOL No worries. So yeah, just follow the basic arguments http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html#four /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 You will also need to configure the partition in your grub or lilo conf file, because the bootloader needs to know what to do with it. On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:24 PM, wrote: > right! i should have said NTFS. > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian Horne" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:37:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: > > HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? :S > > On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: > > > >> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA > >> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. > >> > >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: > >> > >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes > >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > >> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c > >> > >> > >> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu > >> 9.10? > >> > >> thank you, > >> > >> jack > >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > >> sllug-members@sllug.org > >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > >> > > > > I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the type: > > > > localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" > > [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > > > This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. > > > > > -- > the blendmaster > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100320/723a7346/attachment-0001.html From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 19:35:59 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:36:07 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <2f932a4a1003201926g57c1f6e4ve73f8b186a4e2437@mail.gmail.com> References: <1557227647.3019541269137922658.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <2f932a4a1003201926g57c1f6e4ve73f8b186a4e2437@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: you might have been thinking of "hpfs", which iirc is another name for ntfs On 3/20/10, Justin Brinkerhoff wrote: > NTFS is the Windows File System. HTML is a markup language for the web... > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:18 PM, wrote: > >> HTML is the Windows file format. >> >> jack >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christian Horne" >> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:37:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: >> >> HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? >> :S >> >> On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: >> > >> >> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA >> >> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. >> >> >> >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: >> >> >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes >> >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >> >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> >> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c >> >> >> >> >> >> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu >> >> 9.10? >> >> >> >> thank you, >> >> >> >> jack >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> >> > >> > I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the >> > type: >> > >> > localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" >> > [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal >> > [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal >> > [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal >> > >> > This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. >> > >> >> >> -- >> the blendmaster >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > -- the blendmaster From jfriend31 at comcast.net Sat Mar 20 19:48:23 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:48:30 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <2f932a4a1003201935l17b48ba9k489fcf9ebbe7b95f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <489423354.3024201269139703431.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> thank you. boy am i learning lots from you folks. jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Brinkerhoff" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:35:00 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: LOL No worries. So yeah, just follow the basic arguments http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html#four /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 You will also need to configure the partition in your grub or lilo conf file, because the bootloader needs to know what to do with it. On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:24 PM, < jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: right! i should have said NTFS. jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Horne" < blendmaster1024@gmail.com > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" < sllug-members@sllug.org > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:37:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? :S On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson < matt@frozenatom.com > wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, < jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: > >> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA >> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. >> >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c >> >> >> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu >> 9.10? >> >> thank you, >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the type: > > localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" > [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal > > This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. > -- the blendmaster ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From matthew at azza.com Sat Mar 20 19:49:39 2010 From: matthew at azza.com (Matthew Hatch) Date: Sat Mar 20 19:49:55 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: References: <1557227647.3019541269137922658.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <2f932a4a1003201926g57c1f6e4ve73f8b186a4e2437@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BA58943.3050902@azza.com> Not quite... HPFS was created for OS/2 back when Microsoft and IBM were collaborating on the project. When they split ways, MS re-branded the filesystem NTFS and made changes to it making it incompatible with HPFS. IBM stuck with HPFS, which died in the late 90's along with OS/2. Windows NT did provide backward compatibility for HPFS for a while, but it was dropped in their later versions. So while they're similar, NTFS and HPFS are actually two separate beasts. They do share a common partition type, though (x07). ...and there's your history lesson for the day. On 03/20/2010 08:35 PM, Christian Horne wrote: > you might have been thinking of "hpfs", which iirc is another name for ntfs > > On 3/20/10, Justin Brinkerhoff wrote: >> NTFS is the Windows File System. HTML is a markup language for the web... >> >> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:18 PM, wrote: >> >>> HTML is the Windows file format. >>> >>> jack >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Christian Horne" >>> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >>> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:37:26 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >>> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: >>> >>> HTML has to stand for something else than the filesystem type ... RIGHT? >>> :S >>> >>> On 3/20/10, Matt Nelson wrote: >>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gentlemen i have added a 250 GB drive to my computer on the second SATA >>>>> cable. it is formatted HTML one partition, Windows XP sees it fine. >>>>> >>>>> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives this result: >>>>> >>>>> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes >>>>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >>>>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >>>>> Disk identifier: 0xc7a2f50c >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> how do i add this to fstab so that it is recognized on boot in Ubuntu >>>>> 9.10? >>>>> >>>>> thank you, >>>>> >>>>> jack >>>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>>>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>>>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>>>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>>>> >>>> >>>> I've never heard of HTML for a filesystem type. Can you verify the >>>> type: >>>> >>>> localhost:~# dmesg | grep -i "FS on sdb" >>>> [14918.084340] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal >>>> [15049.501264] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal >>>> [15331.739915] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal >>>> >>>> This shows that this specific Filesystem is EXT3. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> the blendmaster >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However, for several reasons which I will not go into here, I decided that I cannot run SLLUG daytime. If someone else is interested in pursuing the continuation of SLLUG Daytime on their own, I'd be happy to hand over the reigns. But there is some good news to go with the bad. I'm looking forward to the future to replace SLLUG Daytime with something of great value. Something we can do regularly as well, maybe just not monthly. I want to thank all of those who've ever attended SLLUG Daytime and have made it such a success. I especially want to thank those who presented, as I know your time is precious, but you chose to prepare and share with us. A special thanks to the folks on the SLLUG board who graciously let us use the SLLUG name, it was much appreciated. In the future, watch for more activities from the Utah Open Source Foundation, as well as more opportunities to participate in the community and grow free and open source software. I'm excited for the future. Cheers, Clint Savage Executive Director, Utah Open Source Foundation and former SLLUG Daytime coordinator From roger at itigger.com Sat Mar 20 20:44:58 2010 From: roger at itigger.com (Roger Smith) Date: Sat Mar 20 20:45:09 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: References: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <201003202244.58951.roger@itigger.com> On Saturday 20 March 2010 7:42:26 pm Christian Horne wrote: > sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 MOUNTPOINTGOESHERE auto > user,auto,exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab echo "ROFL" >> the_entire_thread#! From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Sat Mar 20 21:24:44 2010 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Sat Mar 20 21:24:47 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <201003202244.58951.roger@itigger.com> References: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <201003202244.58951.roger@itigger.com> Message-ID: <2f932a4a1003202124o18fd20b1v50862e9d6b6bec93@mail.gmail.com> echo "ROFL"; cout << "ROFL"; system.out.println("ROFL"); puts "ROFL" Oh no, I'm not a programmer that knows too many languages for his own good... :P On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Roger Smith wrote: > On Saturday 20 March 2010 7:42:26 pm Christian Horne wrote: > > sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 MOUNTPOINTGOESHERE auto > > user,auto,exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab > > echo "ROFL" >> the_entire_thread#! > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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SIDE NOTE: I am looking for an old laptop Hard Drive, no larger then 8 GB, but hopefully larger then 3 GB. I'd even be willing to part a few bucks for it. If anyone has one they are willing to part with please let me know. Thanks. Jared From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Sun Mar 21 09:00:17 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Sun Mar 21 09:00:27 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: how to add this drive to fstab: In-Reply-To: <2f932a4a1003202124o18fd20b1v50862e9d6b6bec93@mail.gmail.com> References: <1300392156.3000191269130697374.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <201003202244.58951.roger@itigger.com> <2f932a4a1003202124o18fd20b1v50862e9d6b6bec93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: the third one from the top offends me. you could try replacing it with print "ROFL" though. On 3/20/10, Justin Brinkerhoff wrote: > echo "ROFL"; > cout << "ROFL"; > system.out.println("ROFL"); > puts "ROFL" > > Oh no, I'm not a programmer that knows too many languages for his own > good... :P > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Roger Smith wrote: > >> On Saturday 20 March 2010 7:42:26 pm Christian Horne wrote: >> > sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 MOUNTPOINTGOESHERE auto >> > user,auto,exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab >> >> echo "ROFL" >> the_entire_thread#! >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > -- the blendmaster From jfriend31 at comcast.net Sun Mar 21 14:41:54 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Sun Mar 21 14:42:02 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: thank you all In-Reply-To: <1549175979.3169361269207553247.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <119284566.3170061269207714009.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> thank you all for your help. i did all your suggestions and still can't see that 250GB drive under PLACES. in SYSTEM > Administration > Disk Utility: 250 GB HARD DISK ATA ST3250823AS MBR Partition Table 250 GB RAID component RAID the lines under 250... are all gray for whatever that means. in Windows i can copy files to that drive, but something is amiss with what i am doing in Ubuntu. in PLACES > Computer a drive is shown called Drive. clicking on that gives the "Unable to mount location, can't mount file" jack jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto user, auto, exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab [sudo] password for jack: /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto user, auto, exec,umask=000 From remo at italy1.com Sun Mar 21 15:41:25 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Sun Mar 21 15:41:34 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: thank you all In-Reply-To: <119284566.3170061269207714009.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Your kernel does not have the option to load the ntfs. Remo On 3/21/10 15:41 , "jfriend31@comcast.net" wrote: > thank you all for your help. > > i did all your suggestions and still can't see that 250GB drive under PLACES. > > in SYSTEM > Administration > Disk Utility: > > 250 GB HARD DISK > ATA ST3250823AS > MBR Partition Table > > 250 GB RAID component > RAID > > the lines under 250... are all gray for whatever that means. > > in Windows i can copy files to that drive, but something is amiss with what i > am doing in Ubuntu. > > in PLACES > Computer a drive is shown called Drive. clicking on that gives the > "Unable to mount location, can't mount file" > > jack > > jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto user, auto, > exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab > [sudo] password for jack: > /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto user, auto, exec,umask=000 > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4ba6940f284278863415848! > From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Sun Mar 21 15:48:14 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Sun Mar 21 15:48:22 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: thank you all In-Reply-To: References: <119284566.3170061269207714009.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: LOL duh then in that case: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g #should do the trick On 3/21/10, Remo Mattei wrote: > Your kernel does not have the option to load the ntfs. > > Remo > > > On 3/21/10 15:41 , "jfriend31@comcast.net" wrote: > >> thank you all for your help. >> >> i did all your suggestions and still can't see that 250GB drive under >> PLACES. >> >> in SYSTEM > Administration > Disk Utility: >> >> 250 GB HARD DISK >> ATA ST3250823AS >> MBR Partition Table >> >> 250 GB RAID component >> RAID >> >> the lines under 250... are all gray for whatever that means. >> >> in Windows i can copy files to that drive, but something is amiss with >> what i >> am doing in Ubuntu. >> >> in PLACES > Computer a drive is shown called Drive. clicking on that gives >> the >> "Unable to mount location, can't mount file" >> >> jack >> >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo true;echo '/dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto user, >> auto, >> exec,umask=000' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab >> [sudo] password for jack: >> /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto user, auto, exec,umask=000 >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> !DSPAM:4ba6940f284278863415848! >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster From jfriend31 at comcast.net Sun Mar 21 16:53:58 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Sun Mar 21 16:54:13 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: results In-Reply-To: <1427154652.3202701269215429306.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <401460503.3203861269215638016.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> here is fstab: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 when i run: sudo mount -a special device /dev/sdg1 does not exist now i am convinced that i am going to have to format the 250 GB drive with Linux. thanks to all for your help. jack From jfriend31 at comcast.net Sun Mar 21 17:05:17 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Sun Mar 21 17:05:21 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: gparted Message-ID: <30534228.3207721269216317879.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> i installed and ran Gparted gparted shows: /dev/sdb1 ntfs /media/linuxstore (a folder i created) 232.88GB 71.85MB used 232.81 GB unused no flags /dev/sda1 is also ntfs 365.52 GB /dev/sda2 is extended 100.24 GB /dev/sda5 is ext4 96.13 GB /dev/sda6 is swap of 4 GB jack From remo at italy1.com Sun Mar 21 19:12:44 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Sun Mar 21 19:13:00 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: results In-Reply-To: <401460503.3203861269215638016.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <401460503.3203861269215638016.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Fdisk -l what does it show? Inviato da iPhone Il giorno Mar 21, 2010, alle ore 17:53, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: > here is fstab: > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique > identifier > # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to > name > # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab > (5). > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation > UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 > errors=remount-ro 0 1 > # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation > UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap > sw 0 0 > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 > > > when i run: > > sudo mount -a > > special device /dev/sdg1 does not exist > > now i am convinced that i am going to have to format the 250 GB > drive with Linux. > > thanks to all for your help. > > jack > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4ba6b2dc31592108098870! > From marc at sllug.org Mon Mar 22 06:33:25 2010 From: marc at sllug.org (Marc Christensen) Date: Mon Mar 22 06:33:30 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Working on a meeting for this week Message-ID: <4BA771A5.1000405@sllug.org> Hey all, Just an update for everyone....I'm working on getting a presenter for this week. There are a few possibilities. It's been an incredibly busy couple weeks with preparing for a conference I have to attend this week as well as training some new interns at work. As a result, not much time to do anything else :( So, hopefully we'll get a presenter and have a meeting. I'll send out a notice as soon as I can about if/when/where/what, etc. -- Marc Christensen http://www.sllug.org From remo at italy1.com Mon Mar 22 13:26:59 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Mon Mar 22 13:27:15 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Hi all DNS question (Bind) Message-ID: I get this from my secondary dns server zone transfer deferred due to quota I have added the transfer in/out into the named.conf file but still get the same message into my logs. Anyone has any suggestions. I looked over google but no much luck on this topic. Remo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100322/e2430544/attachment.html From jfriend31 at comcast.net Mon Mar 22 13:29:05 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Mon Mar 22 13:29:11 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk Message-ID: <1221114018.3524671269289745515.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt-get and it was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there is no such file. question following no Fdisk 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? 'fdisk' is from util-linux? so i have no idea how to get that answer jack From remo at italy1.com Mon Mar 22 13:40:54 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Mon Mar 22 13:41:08 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: <1221114018.3524671269289745515.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: It's fdisk all lower case Remo On 3/22/10 14:29 , "jfriend31@comcast.net" wrote: > Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt-get and it > was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there is no such > file. > > question following no Fdisk > 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? > 'fdisk' is from util-linux? > > so i have no idea how to get that answer > > jack > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4ba7d46e62357868258756! > From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 14:10:06 2010 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Mon Mar 22 14:10:08 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: References: <1221114018.3524671269289745515.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2f932a4a1003221410qdc80c1cgd2e79dbbb856b701@mail.gmail.com> Technically, it's gnu-fdisk. If you were to search APT for fdisk you'd get: $ apt-cache search fdisk acorn-fdisk - Partition editor for Acorn/RISC OS machines amiga-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Amiga partitions (cross version) atari-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Atari (running on non-Atari) gnu-fdisk - linux fdisk replacement based on libparted gpart - Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions simplebackup - Simple backup tool After it's installed, gnu-fdisk is aliased to fdisk. I'm shocked it's not already installed though; the Ubuntu install should'n't have been possible without it... It's part of the Linux base package in Ubuntu. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Remo Mattei wrote: > It's fdisk all lower case > > Remo > > > On 3/22/10 14:29 , "jfriend31@comcast.net" wrote: > > > Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt-get and > it > > was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there is no > such > > file. > > > > question following no Fdisk > > 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? > > 'fdisk' is from util-linux? > > > > so i have no idea how to get that answer > > > > jack > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > > sllug-members@sllug.org > > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > > !DSPAM:4ba7d46e62357868258756! > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100322/b68e16cb/attachment.htm From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 14:11:11 2010 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Mon Mar 22 14:11:14 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: <2f932a4a1003221410qdc80c1cgd2e79dbbb856b701@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221114018.3524671269289745515.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <2f932a4a1003221410qdc80c1cgd2e79dbbb856b701@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f932a4a1003221411rae939dajdb4df9168ca60c2a@mail.gmail.com> But the command is fdisk, all lowercase, which is what he was saying... On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Justin Brinkerhoff < justinbrinkerhoff@gmail.com> wrote: > Technically, it's gnu-fdisk. If you were to search APT for fdisk you'd get: > > $ apt-cache search fdisk > acorn-fdisk - Partition editor for Acorn/RISC OS machines > amiga-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Amiga partitions (cross version) > atari-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Atari (running on non-Atari) > gnu-fdisk - linux fdisk replacement based on libparted > gpart - Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions > simplebackup - Simple backup tool > > After it's installed, gnu-fdisk is aliased to fdisk. I'm shocked it's not > already installed though; the Ubuntu install should'n't have been possible > without it... It's part of the Linux base package in Ubuntu. > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Remo Mattei wrote: > >> It's fdisk all lower case >> >> Remo >> >> >> On 3/22/10 14:29 , "jfriend31@comcast.net" wrote: >> >> > Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt-get and >> it >> > was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there is no >> such >> > file. >> > >> > question following no Fdisk >> > 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? >> > 'fdisk' is from util-linux? >> > >> > so i have no idea how to get that answer >> > >> > jack >> > ______________________________________________________________________ >> > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> > sllug-members@sllug.org >> > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > >> > !DSPAM:4ba7d46e62357868258756! >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100322/088f5969/attachment.html From jfriend31 at comcast.net Mon Mar 22 14:19:55 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Mon Mar 22 14:20:01 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: <1943471651.3549591269292751182.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1632433570.3549911269292795328.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> gnu-fdisk is installed but the command: fdisk -l results in NOTHING. fdisk -l DRIVE gives no such drive (DRIVE is the label under Gnome fdisk -l sdb or sdb1 gives : could not stat device ...no such file or directory syntax wrong? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Brinkerhoff" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:10:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk Technically, it's gnu-fdisk. If you were to search APT for fdisk you'd get: $ apt-cache search fdisk acorn-fdisk - Partition editor for Acorn/RISC OS machines amiga-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Amiga partitions (cross version) atari-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Atari (running on non-Atari) gnu-fdisk - linux fdisk replacement based on libparted gpart - Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions simplebackup - Simple backup tool After it's installed, gnu-fdisk is aliased to fdisk. I'm shocked it's not already installed though; the Ubuntu install should'n't have been possible without it... It's part of the Linux base package in Ubuntu. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Remo Mattei < remo@italy1.com > wrote: It's fdisk all lower case Remo On 3/22/10 14:29 , " jfriend31@comcast.net " < jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: > Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt-get and it > was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there is no such > file. > > question following no Fdisk > 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? > 'fdisk' is from util-linux? > > so i have no idea how to get that answer > > jack > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4ba7d46e62357868258756! > ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Mar 22 14:29:06 2010 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon Mar 22 14:29:15 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: <1632433570.3549911269292795328.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1943471651.3549591269292751182.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1632433570.3549911269292795328.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Run sudo /sbin/fdisk -l (then put in your user's password) It should work then. Clint On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:19 PM, wrote: > gnu-fdisk is installed but the command: > > fdisk -l > > results in NOTHING. > > fdisk -l DRIVE gives no such drive (DRIVE is the label under Gnome > > fdisk -l sdb or sdb1 gives : could not stat device ...no such file or directory > > syntax wrong? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Brinkerhoff" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:10:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk > > > Technically, it's gnu-fdisk. If you were to search APT for fdisk you'd get: > > $ apt-cache search fdisk > acorn-fdisk - Partition editor for Acorn/RISC OS machines > amiga-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Amiga partitions (cross version) > atari-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Atari (running on non-Atari) > gnu-fdisk - linux fdisk replacement based on libparted > gpart - Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions > simplebackup - Simple backup tool > > After it's installed, gnu-fdisk is aliased to fdisk. I'm shocked it's not already installed though; the Ubuntu install should'n't have been possible without it... It's part of the Linux base package in Ubuntu. > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Remo Mattei < remo@italy1.com > wrote: > > > It's fdisk all lower case > > Remo > > > > > > On 3/22/10 14:29 , " jfriend31@comcast.net " < jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: > >> Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt-get and it >> was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there is no such >> file. >> >> question following no Fdisk >> 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? >> 'fdisk' is from util-linux? >> >> so i have no idea how to get that answer >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> !DSPAM:4ba7d46e62357868258756! From jfriend31 at comcast.net Mon Mar 22 14:42:50 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Mon Mar 22 14:43:02 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: <2243980.3560391269294127996.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <871184471.3560811269294170800.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> in the meantime i reformatted the 250GB drive as ext4 here is the result of the sudo /sbin/fdisk -l Disk /dev/sdb: 250 GB, 250056737280 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 30401 244196001 83 Linux Places now sees that drive but won't let me look at the contents of the drive. which in this case is zero. Unable to mount location error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with [mntent]: line 15 in fstab is bad fstab is: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 so i think that last line is null and void now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Savage" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:29:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk Run sudo /sbin/fdisk -l (then put in your user's password) It should work then. Clint On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:19 PM, wrote: > gnu-fdisk is installed but the command: > > fdisk -l > > results in NOTHING. > > fdisk -l DRIVE gives no such drive (DRIVE is the label under Gnome > > fdisk -l sdb or sdb1 gives : could not stat device ...no such file or directory > > syntax wrong? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Brinkerhoff" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:10:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk > > > Technically, it's gnu-fdisk. If you were to search APT for fdisk you'd get: > > $ apt-cache search fdisk > acorn-fdisk - Partition editor for Acorn/RISC OS machines > amiga-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Amiga partitions (cross version) > atari-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Atari (running on non-Atari) > gnu-fdisk - linux fdisk replacement based on libparted > gpart - Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions > simplebackup - Simple backup tool > > After it's installed, gnu-fdisk is aliased to fdisk. I'm shocked it's not already installed though; the Ubuntu install should'n't have been possible without it... It's part of the Linux base package in Ubuntu. > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Remo Mattei < remo@italy1.com > wrote: > > > It's fdisk all lower case > > Remo > > > > > > On 3/22/10 14:29 , " jfriend31@comcast.net " < jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: > >> Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt-get and it >> was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there is no such >> file. >> >> question following no Fdisk >> 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? >> 'fdisk' is from util-linux? >> >> so i have no idea how to get that answer >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> !DSPAM:4ba7d46e62357868258756! ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From byron at theclarkfamily.name Mon Mar 22 14:52:22 2010 From: byron at theclarkfamily.name (Byron Clark) Date: Mon Mar 22 14:51:45 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: <871184471.3560811269294170800.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <2243980.3560391269294127996.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <871184471.3560811269294170800.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20100322215222.GO3313@thinktank.theclarkfamily.name> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:42:50PM +0000, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 Remove the comma in that line. -- Byron Clark From remo at italy1.com Mon Mar 22 16:00:47 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Mon Mar 22 16:01:10 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: <871184471.3560811269294170800.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <871184471.3560811269294170800.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: You need make the partition now Inviato da iPhone Il giorno Mar 22, 2010, alle ore 15:42, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: > in the meantime i reformatted the 250GB drive as ext4 > > here is the result of the sudo /sbin/fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/sdb: 250 GB, 250056737280 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sdb1 1 30401 244196001 83 Linux > > > Places now sees that drive but won't let me look at the contents of > the drive. which in this case is zero. > > Unable to mount location > > error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with > [mntent]: line 15 in fstab is bad > > fstab is: > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique > identifier > # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to > name > # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab > (5). > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation > UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 > errors=remount-ro 0 1 > # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation > UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap > sw 0 0 > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 > > > so i think that last line is null and void now. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clint Savage" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" members@sllug.org> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:29:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk > > Run > > sudo /sbin/fdisk -l > > (then put in your user's password) > > It should work then. > > Clint > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:19 PM, wrote: >> gnu-fdisk is installed but the command: >> >> fdisk -l >> >> results in NOTHING. >> >> fdisk -l DRIVE gives no such drive (DRIVE is the label under Gnome >> >> fdisk -l sdb or sdb1 gives : could not stat device ...no such file >> or directory >> >> syntax wrong? >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Justin Brinkerhoff" >> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > > >> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:10:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk >> >> >> Technically, it's gnu-fdisk. If you were to search APT for fdisk >> you'd get: >> >> $ apt-cache search fdisk >> acorn-fdisk - Partition editor for Acorn/RISC OS machines >> amiga-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Amiga partitions (cross >> version) >> atari-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Atari (running on non-Atari) >> gnu-fdisk - linux fdisk replacement based on libparted >> gpart - Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions >> simplebackup - Simple backup tool >> >> After it's installed, gnu-fdisk is aliased to fdisk. I'm shocked >> it's not already installed though; the Ubuntu install should'n't >> have been possible without it... It's part of the Linux base >> package in Ubuntu. >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Remo Mattei < remo@italy1.com > >> wrote: >> >> >> It's fdisk all lower case >> >> Remo >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/22/10 14:29 , " jfriend31@comcast.net " < >> jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: >> >>> Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt- >>> get and it >>> was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there >>> is no such >>> file. >>> >>> question following no Fdisk >>> 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? >>> 'fdisk' is from util-linux? >>> >>> so i have no idea how to get that answer >>> >>> jack >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel >>> #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >>> > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4ba7e536119742936357657! > From jfriend31 at comcast.net Mon Mar 22 16:04:40 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Mon Mar 22 16:04:47 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: <20100322215222.GO3313@thinktank.theclarkfamily.name> Message-ID: <1856489849.3597121269299080160.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> done jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Byron Clark" To: sllug-members@sllug.org Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:52:22 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:42:50PM +0000, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 Remove the comma in that line. -- Byron Clark ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From jfriend31 at comcast.net Mon Mar 22 16:10:32 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Mon Mar 22 16:10:48 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1634873124.3599841269299432697.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> i have gparted with /dev/sdb1 shown as file system ext4 under all the menus i find Create Partition Table. is that what i want to do? if so, what kind? MSDOS? jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Remo Mattei" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Cc: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:00:47 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk You need make the partition now Inviato da iPhone Il giorno Mar 22, 2010, alle ore 15:42, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: > in the meantime i reformatted the 250GB drive as ext4 > > here is the result of the sudo /sbin/fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/sdb: 250 GB, 250056737280 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sdb1 1 30401 244196001 83 Linux > > > Places now sees that drive but won't let me look at the contents of > the drive. which in this case is zero. > > Unable to mount location > > error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with > [mntent]: line 15 in fstab is bad > > fstab is: > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique > identifier > # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to > name > # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab > (5). > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation > UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 > errors=remount-ro 0 1 > # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation > UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap > sw 0 0 > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 > 0 0 > /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 > > > so i think that last line is null and void now. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clint Savage" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" members@sllug.org> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:29:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk > > Run > > sudo /sbin/fdisk -l > > (then put in your user's password) > > It should work then. > > Clint > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:19 PM, wrote: >> gnu-fdisk is installed but the command: >> >> fdisk -l >> >> results in NOTHING. >> >> fdisk -l DRIVE gives no such drive (DRIVE is the label under Gnome >> >> fdisk -l sdb or sdb1 gives : could not stat device ...no such file >> or directory >> >> syntax wrong? >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Justin Brinkerhoff" >> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > > >> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:10:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk >> >> >> Technically, it's gnu-fdisk. If you were to search APT for fdisk >> you'd get: >> >> $ apt-cache search fdisk >> acorn-fdisk - Partition editor for Acorn/RISC OS machines >> amiga-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Amiga partitions (cross >> version) >> atari-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Atari (running on non-Atari) >> gnu-fdisk - linux fdisk replacement based on libparted >> gpart - Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions >> simplebackup - Simple backup tool >> >> After it's installed, gnu-fdisk is aliased to fdisk. I'm shocked >> it's not already installed though; the Ubuntu install should'n't >> have been possible without it... It's part of the Linux base >> package in Ubuntu. >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Remo Mattei < remo@italy1.com > >> wrote: >> >> >> It's fdisk all lower case >> >> Remo >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/22/10 14:29 , " jfriend31@comcast.net " < >> jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: >> >>> Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt- >>> get and it >>> was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there >>> is no such >>> file. >>> >>> question following no Fdisk >>> 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? >>> 'fdisk' is from util-linux? >>> >>> so i have no idea how to get that answer >>> >>> jack >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel >>> #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >>> > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4ba7e536119742936357657! > ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From remo at italy1.com Mon Mar 22 16:51:17 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Mon Mar 22 16:51:31 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fdisk In-Reply-To: <1634873124.3599841269299432697.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1634873124.3599841269299432697.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On top of my head mk2ef or similar and do a man on it to look at the options not sure for the ext4 since I have not used it yet Remo Inviato da iPhone Il giorno Mar 22, 2010, alle ore 17:10, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: > i have gparted with /dev/sdb1 shown as file system ext4 > under all the menus i find Create Partition Table. > > is that what i want to do? > > if so, what kind? > > MSDOS? > > jack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Remo Mattei" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" members@sllug.org> > Cc: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" members@sllug.org> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:00:47 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk > > You need make the partition now > > Inviato da iPhone > > Il giorno Mar 22, 2010, alle ore 15:42, jfriend31@comcast.net ha > scritto: > >> in the meantime i reformatted the 250GB drive as ext4 >> >> here is the result of the sudo /sbin/fdisk -l >> >> Disk /dev/sdb: 250 GB, 250056737280 bytes >> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >> >> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >> /dev/sdb1 1 30401 244196001 83 Linux >> >> >> Places now sees that drive but won't let me look at the contents of >> the drive. which in this case is zero. >> >> Unable to mount location >> >> error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with >> [mntent]: line 15 in fstab is bad >> >> fstab is: >> >> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. >> # >> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique >> identifier >> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to >> name >> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab >> (5). >> # >> # >> >> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 >> # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation >> UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 >> errors=remount-ro 0 1 >> # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation >> UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap >> sw 0 0 >> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 >> 0 0 >> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 >> 0 0 >> /dev/sdb1 /media/windows auto defaults 0, 0 >> >> >> so i think that last line is null and void now. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Clint Savage" >> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > members@sllug.org> >> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:29:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk >> >> Run >> >> sudo /sbin/fdisk -l >> >> (then put in your user's password) >> >> It should work then. >> >> Clint >> >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:19 PM, wrote: >>> gnu-fdisk is installed but the command: >>> >>> fdisk -l >>> >>> results in NOTHING. >>> >>> fdisk -l DRIVE gives no such drive (DRIVE is the label under Gnome >>> >>> fdisk -l sdb or sdb1 gives : could not stat device ...no such file >>> or directory >>> >>> syntax wrong? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Justin Brinkerhoff" >>> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:10:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>> Mountain >>> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Fdisk >>> >>> >>> Technically, it's gnu-fdisk. If you were to search APT for fdisk >>> you'd get: >>> >>> $ apt-cache search fdisk >>> acorn-fdisk - Partition editor for Acorn/RISC OS machines >>> amiga-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Amiga partitions (cross >>> version) >>> atari-fdisk-cross - Partition editor for Atari (running on non- >>> Atari) >>> gnu-fdisk - linux fdisk replacement based on libparted >>> gpart - Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions >>> simplebackup - Simple backup tool >>> >>> After it's installed, gnu-fdisk is aliased to fdisk. I'm shocked >>> it's not already installed though; the Ubuntu install should'n't >>> have been possible without it... It's part of the Linux base >>> package in Ubuntu. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Remo Mattei < remo@italy1.com > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> It's fdisk all lower case >>> >>> Remo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/22/10 14:29 , " jfriend31@comcast.net " < >>> jfriend31@comcast.net > wrote: >>> >>>> Fdisk -l shows Fdisk not found. i tried to install Fdisk in apt- >>>> get and it >>>> was not found. also tried to install Fdisk with Synaptic and there >>>> is no such >>>> file. >>>> >>>> question following no Fdisk >>>> 'fdisk' is from gnu-fdisk? >>>> 'fdisk' is from util-linux? >>>> >>>> so i have no idea how to get that answer >>>> >>>> jack >>>> ______________________________________________________________________ > > >>>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, >>>> links. >>>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel >>>> #Utah >>>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>>> >>>> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4ba7f9c4176281703112452! > From jfriend31 at comcast.net Mon Mar 22 18:27:49 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Mon Mar 22 18:28:04 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: ext4 Message-ID: <928151547.3655291269307669572.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> i found the solution to my quandary: https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions How do I get started using ext4? Please see the Ext4 Howto page for information on getting started using ext4. Where do I get the latest version of e2fsprogs? The latest version of e2fsprogs can be found at Soureforge or at kernel.org. How do I build e2fsprogs? The INSTALL file in the top of the source tree gives more detailed information, but e2fsprogs uses a standard configure script, so the standard "./configure; make" will build the e2fsprogs binaries. Note that if you wish to build the ELF shared libraries, you need to add the "--enable-elf-shlibs" option to the configure invocation. How do I create and mount a new ext4 filesystem? First, make sure that you have e2fsprogs 1.41.0 or later installed on your system. This is required for ext4 support. If the new partition where you would like to create the ext4 filesystem is /dev/sdb1, then all you have to type is: /sbin/mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 Then to mount this new filesystem, all you need to do is: mkdir /mnt/test mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test For more information, please see the Ext4 Howto document. thanks fellows for your help. jack From marc at sllug.org Tue Mar 23 08:49:16 2010 From: marc at sllug.org (Marc Christensen) Date: Tue Mar 23 08:49:20 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: No reply for presenters yet but we'll have a meeting anyway! Message-ID: <4BA8E2FC.3060701@sllug.org> Hey everyone, just letting you know that I contacted a few people who have expressed interest in presenting at SLLUG over the last couple months and have had no reply. So, if there's no presenter, we'll still have a Q&A type meeting, but nothing formal. So, plan on SLLUG this Wednesday either way, it may be a fairly casual meeting. See you then! Time/Date: ---------- Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:10pm p.m. Place: ---------- Room 101 or 103 in Lower Warnock Engineering Building Directions/Parking: Directions - [http://www.map.utah.edu/index.jsp?find=62] Parking can be found just East of the WEB building and there is a big lot just North of the Merrill Engineering building (MEB). Parking is free after 6:00 (Based on the signs posted. Always check in case this changes.) Special thanks go to: - U of U for providing the meeting room. - Various Volunteers From jfriend31 at comcast.net Wed Mar 24 16:15:43 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Wed Mar 24 16:15:50 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership Message-ID: <1243498020.4430821269472543047.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Gentlemen: i have created a directory "jacks" in /mnt which is the name for the new HDD with the help of "gksu Nautilus." the ls -l report for that directory is drw-rw-rw- 3 jack root 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks please tell me how to change the ownership from "jack root" to "jack jack" i have tried every form of "chown" and "chmod" i can find with no success. nor can i copy a file to "jacks" without invoking root privileges. thank you. jack From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 16:32:29 2010 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed Mar 24 16:32:38 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <1243498020.4430821269472543047.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1243498020.4430821269472543047.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:15 PM, wrote: > Gentlemen: > > i have created a directory "jacks" in /mnt which is the name for the new HDD with the help of "gksu Nautilus." > > the ls -l report for that directory is > > drw-rw-rw- 3 jack root 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks > > please tell me how to change the ownership from "jack root" to "jack jack" > > i have tried every form of "chown" and "chmod" i can find with no success. > > nor can i copy a file to "jacks" without invoking root privileges. > > thank you. > > jack Jack, after your drive is mounted, run the following (as root): chown jacks. /mnt/jacks Cheers, Clint From ecantwell at bluehost.com Wed Mar 24 17:23:08 2010 From: ecantwell at bluehost.com (Erick Cantwell) Date: Wed Mar 24 17:23:10 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <1243498020.4430821269472543047.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1243498020.4430821269472543047.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4BAAACEC.9040508@bluehost.com> On 03/24/2010 05:15 PM, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > Gentlemen: > > i have created a directory "jacks" in /mnt which is the name for the new HDD with the help of "gksu Nautilus." > > the ls -l report for that directory is > > drw-rw-rw- 3 jack root 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks > > please tell me how to change the ownership from "jack root" to "jack jack" > > i have tried every form of "chown" and "chmod" i can find with no success. > > nor can i copy a file to "jacks" without invoking root privileges. > > thank you. > > jack > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > When you say "i have tried every form of "chown" i can find with no success" I'm afraid that I can't believe you. These are the specific examples given in the actual man page for chown, and they seem fairly precise. EXAMPLES chown root /u Change the owner of /u to "root". chown root:staff /u Likewise, but also change its group to "staff". chown -hR root /u Change the owner of /u and subfiles to "root". --Erick Cantwell From jfriend31 at comcast.net Wed Mar 24 19:31:55 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Wed Mar 24 19:32:02 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <905359261.4503681269484315492.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> thank you, jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Savage" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:32:29 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:15 PM, wrote: > Gentlemen: > > i have created a directory "jacks" in /mnt which is the name for the new HDD with the help of "gksu Nautilus." > > the ls -l report for that directory is > > drw-rw-rw- 3 jack root 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks > > please tell me how to change the ownership from "jack root" to "jack jack" > > i have tried every form of "chown" and "chmod" i can find with no success. > > nor can i copy a file to "jacks" without invoking root privileges. > > thank you. > > jack Jack, after your drive is mounted, run the following (as root): chown jacks. /mnt/jacks Cheers, Clint ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Wed Mar 24 19:48:35 2010 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Wed Mar 24 19:48:43 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <905359261.4503681269484315492.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <905359261.4503681269484315492.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: wow ... FAIL ... try this: [sudo|su -c] chown root:root [file] if that doesn't do it, you probably like have the ext3 immutable flag set or something ... On 3/24/10, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > thank you, > > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clint Savage" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:32:29 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:15 PM, wrote: >> Gentlemen: >> >> i have created a directory "jacks" in /mnt which is the name for the new >> HDD with the help of "gksu Nautilus." >> >> the ls -l report for that directory is >> >> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack root 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks >> >> please tell me how to change the ownership from "jack root" to "jack jack" >> >> i have tried every form of "chown" and "chmod" i can find with no success. >> >> nor can i copy a file to "jacks" without invoking root privileges. >> >> thank you. >> >> jack > > Jack, > > after your drive is mounted, run the following (as root): > > chown jacks. /mnt/jacks > > Cheers, > > Clint > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster From rfg at csolutions.net Wed Mar 24 20:46:48 2010 From: rfg at csolutions.net (Rick Gregory) Date: Wed Mar 24 20:46:51 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fwd: Webinar Invite: Liberty Univ. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2739 - Release Date: 03/11/10 14:50:00 From jfriend31 at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 04:58:27 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Thu Mar 25 04:58:35 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <881483725.4567771269518264937.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2081229159.4567821269518307371.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Thank you all! the directory is now "jack jack" but still will not give me permission as "jack." i must use sudo or sudo -i and move there. gksu nautilus allowed me to change the permissions for "jack" and "group" to read write however. $ cd /mnt always results in permission denied. $ ls -l /mnt always results in cannot access permission denied sudo -i gets me there jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo -i [sudo] password for jack: root@jack-desktop:~# ls -l /mnt total 8 drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 test root@jack-desktop:~# mount tells me: jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo mount /mnt/test mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /mnt/test busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt/test jack@jack-desktop:~$ so maybe ext4 is broken? jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Horne" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:48:35 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership wow ... FAIL ... try this: [sudo|su -c] chown root:root [file] if that doesn't do it, you probably like have the ext3 immutable flag set or something ... On 3/24/10, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > thank you, > > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clint Savage" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:32:29 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:15 PM, wrote: >> Gentlemen: >> >> i have created a directory "jacks" in /mnt which is the name for the new >> HDD with the help of "gksu Nautilus." >> >> the ls -l report for that directory is >> >> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack root 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks >> >> please tell me how to change the ownership from "jack root" to "jack jack" >> >> i have tried every form of "chown" and "chmod" i can find with no success. >> >> nor can i copy a file to "jacks" without invoking root privileges. >> >> thank you. >> >> jack > > Jack, > > after your drive is mounted, run the following (as root): > > chown jacks. /mnt/jacks > > Cheers, > > Clint > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From jshatch at azza.com Thu Mar 25 06:03:47 2010 From: jshatch at azza.com (Jarom Hatch) Date: Thu Mar 25 06:03:59 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <2081229159.4567821269518307371.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <2081229159.4567821269518307371.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4BAB5F33.4030005@azza.com> > drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular files, the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the user to enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no matter who the owner is. Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. Thanks Jarom From jfriend31 at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 06:09:15 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Thu Mar 25 06:09:20 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <4BAB5F33.4030005@azza.com> Message-ID: <279311894.4584411269522555877.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> here is the result: jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks [sudo] password for jack: jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied jack@jack-desktop:~$ jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarom Hatch" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership > drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular files, the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the user to enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no matter who the owner is. Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. Thanks Jarom ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From jshatch at azza.com Thu Mar 25 06:16:20 2010 From: jshatch at azza.com (Jarom Hatch) Date: Thu Mar 25 06:16:36 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <279311894.4584411269522555877.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <279311894.4584411269522555877.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4BAB6224.9010505@azza.com> On 03/25/2010 07:09 AM, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > here is the result: > > > jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks > [sudo] password for jack: > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt > bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied > > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks > bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied > jack@jack-desktop:~$ Check the directory /mnt as well, looks like it doesn't have the x bit either. chmod a+x /mnt Thanks Jarom From remo at italy1.com Thu Mar 25 07:16:23 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Thu Mar 25 07:16:42 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <279311894.4584411269522555877.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <279311894.4584411269522555877.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <44FC6C47-6B31-4CB8-A455-BECF7EB7829B@italy1.com> What is the line on fstab? Inviato da iPhone Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: > here is the result: > > > jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks > [sudo] password for jack: > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt > bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied > > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks > bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied > jack@jack-desktop:~$ > > > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jarom Hatch" > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" members@sllug.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada > Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership > >> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks > > You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular files, > the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the user > to > enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no > matter who the owner is. > > Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. > > Thanks > > Jarom > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! > From jshatch at azza.com Thu Mar 25 07:31:00 2010 From: jshatch at azza.com (Jarom Hatch) Date: Thu Mar 25 07:31:17 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <44FC6C47-6B31-4CB8-A455-BECF7EB7829B@italy1.com> References: <279311894.4584411269522555877.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <44FC6C47-6B31-4CB8-A455-BECF7EB7829B@italy1.com> Message-ID: <4BAB73A4.4080502@azza.com> It's not an fstab issue, it's a permissions issue. On 03/25/2010 08:16 AM, Remo Mattei wrote: > What is the line on fstab? > > Inviato da iPhone > > Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: > >> here is the result: >> >> >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks >> [sudo] password for jack: >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt >> bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied >> >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks >> bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ >> >> >> jack >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jarom Hatch" >> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership >> >>> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks >> >> You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular files, >> the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the user to >> enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no >> matter who the owner is. >> >> Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jarom >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! >> > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100325/51b27d92/signature.pgp From lugs at projektenterprises.com Thu Mar 25 07:38:36 2010 From: lugs at projektenterprises.com (Shawn Thompson) Date: Thu Mar 25 07:38:44 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <44FC6C47-6B31-4CB8-A455-BECF7EB7829B@italy1.com> References: <279311894.4584411269522555877.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <44FC6C47-6B31-4CB8-A455-BECF7EB7829B@italy1.com> Message-ID: <635e32ff1003250738s79289d12td683aac8e2ae3d91@mail.gmail.com> [sudo|su -c] chown jack:jack -R /mnt That *should* fix the issue although you may have to repermission after remount but not 100% on that. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Remo Mattei wrote: > What is the line on fstab? > > Inviato da iPhone > > Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: > > here is the result: >> >> >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks >> [sudo] password for jack: >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt >> bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied >> >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks >> bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ >> >> >> jack >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jarom Hatch" >> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership >> >> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks >>> >> >> You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular files, >> the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the user to >> enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no >> matter who the owner is. >> >> Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jarom >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100325/9fe99a9d/attachment.htm From jfriend31 at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 07:39:13 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Thu Mar 25 07:39:20 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: fstab Message-ID: <881919836.4614781269527953833.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> here is fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test ext4 rw,user,auto,exec 0 0 jack From remo at italy1.com Thu Mar 25 07:43:45 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Thu Mar 25 07:44:02 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <4BAB73A4.4080502@azza.com> Message-ID: Please if you do not know what you are talking let's not respond to it. If you set the wrong options to the fstab it will not change permission. On 3/25/10 08:31 , "Jarom Hatch" wrote: > It's not an fstab issue, it's a permissions issue. > > On 03/25/2010 08:16 AM, Remo Mattei wrote: >> What is the line on fstab? >> >> Inviato da iPhone >> >> Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: >> >>> here is the result: >>> >>> >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks >>> [sudo] password for jack: >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt >>> bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied >>> >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks >>> bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ >>> >>> >>> jack >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jarom Hatch" >>> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >>> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership >>> >>>> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks >>> >>> You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular files, >>> the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the user to >>> enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no >>> matter who the owner is. >>> >>> Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jarom >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >>> !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! >>> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > !DSPAM:4bab742093902033139231! From matthew at azza.com Thu Mar 25 07:44:45 2010 From: matthew at azza.com (Matthew Hatch) Date: Thu Mar 25 07:44:58 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <635e32ff1003250738s79289d12td683aac8e2ae3d91@mail.gmail.com> References: <279311894.4584411269522555877.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <44FC6C47-6B31-4CB8-A455-BECF7EB7829B@italy1.com> <635e32ff1003250738s79289d12td683aac8e2ae3d91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BAB76DD.1050209@azza.com> I wouldn't set /mnt to anything besides root:root. Do an 'ls -l' of / and check that the permissions and owners for /mnt match this: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-10-23 18:47 mnt ^---- Those permissions only allow root to write to the /mnt directory but will allow everyone else read-only access to enter it. Then, if /mnt/jacks has the same permissions (755) but is owned by jack:jack, you can write to that directory. Run this: sudo chown root:root /mnt sudo chmod 755 /mnt If you still can't get to '/mnt/jacks', run this: sudo chown jack:jack /mnt/jacks sudo chmod 755 /mnt/jacks ...though if you already did what jarom said, this should be unnecessary. -- Matthew Hatch On 03/25/2010 08:38 AM, Shawn Thompson wrote: > [sudo|su -c] chown jack:jack -R /mnt > That *should* fix the issue although you may have to repermission after > remount but not 100% on that. > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Remo Mattei > wrote: > > What is the line on fstab? > > Inviato da iPhone > > Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net > ha scritto: > > here is the result: > > > jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks > [sudo] password for jack: > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt > bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied > > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks > bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied > jack@jack-desktop:~$ > > > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jarom Hatch" > > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada > Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership > > drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks > > > You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular > files, > the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the > user to > enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no > matter who the owner is. > > Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. > > Thanks > > Jarom > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net > channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net > channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net > channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See fstab(5). > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation > UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 > errors=remount-ro 0 1 > # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation > UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap sw > 0 0 > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 > /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test ext4 rw,user,auto,exec 0 0 > > > jack > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4bab75fd104691819314080! > From matthew at azza.com Thu Mar 25 07:52:29 2010 From: matthew at azza.com (Matthew Hatch) Date: Thu Mar 25 07:52:39 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: fstab In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BAB78AD.20604@azza.com> In that thread, the problem was solved by using chown/chmod on the directory to fix the permissions. His fstab entry is fine as is. On 03/25/2010 08:46 AM, Remo Mattei wrote: > http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=68727 > > This may help > > > On 3/25/10 08:39 , "jfriend31@comcast.net" wrote: > >> here is fstab >> >> >> >> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. >> # >> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier >> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name >> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). >> # >> # >> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 >> # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation >> UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 >> errors=remount-ro 0 1 >> # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation >> UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap sw >> 0 0 >> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 >> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 >> /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test ext4 rw,user,auto,exec 0 0 >> >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> !DSPAM:4bab75fd104691819314080! >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100325/a7c37e86/signature.pgp From jfriend31 at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 07:57:33 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Thu Mar 25 07:57:53 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: fstab In-Reply-To: <4BAB78AD.20604@azza.com> Message-ID: <1514388827.4623761269529053160.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> thanks jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Hatch" To: sllug-members@sllug.org Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:52:29 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: fstab In that thread, the problem was solved by using chown/chmod on the directory to fix the permissions. His fstab entry is fine as is. On 03/25/2010 08:46 AM, Remo Mattei wrote: > http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=68727 > > This may help > > > On 3/25/10 08:39 , "jfriend31@comcast.net" wrote: > >> here is fstab >> >> >> >> # /etc/fstab: static file system information. >> # >> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier >> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name >> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). >> # >> # >> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 >> # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation >> UUID=c394557c-79c3-409e-b890-104e1ef24fce / ext4 >> errors=remount-ro 0 1 >> # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation >> UUID=cdf872bd-e347-4269-b190-283fa71941e2 none swap sw >> 0 0 >> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 >> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 >> /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test ext4 rw,user,auto,exec 0 0 >> >> >> jack >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> !DSPAM:4bab75fd104691819314080! >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From byron at theclarkfamily.name Thu Mar 25 07:58:20 2010 From: byron at theclarkfamily.name (Byron Clark) Date: Thu Mar 25 07:58:04 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: References: <4BAB73A4.4080502@azza.com> Message-ID: <20100325145820.GA3651@thinktank.theclarkfamily.name> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 08:43:45AM -0600, Remo Mattei wrote: > Please if you do not know what you are talking let's not respond to it. If > you set the wrong options to the fstab it will not change permission. That's a little harsh. Since you're the expert here, why don't you tell us what the magical options in fstab (other than 'ro') are that will make it impossible to change permissions on an ext{2,3,4} filesystem. -- Byron Clark From jfriend31 at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 08:01:39 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Thu Mar 25 08:01:45 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <4BAB76DD.1050209@azza.com> Message-ID: <1302460212.4626021269529299226.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> thank you jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Hatch" To: sllug-members@sllug.org Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:44:45 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership I wouldn't set /mnt to anything besides root:root. Do an 'ls -l' of / and check that the permissions and owners for /mnt match this: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-10-23 18:47 mnt ^---- Those permissions only allow root to write to the /mnt directory but will allow everyone else read-only access to enter it. Then, if /mnt/jacks has the same permissions (755) but is owned by jack:jack, you can write to that directory. Run this: sudo chown root:root /mnt sudo chmod 755 /mnt If you still can't get to '/mnt/jacks', run this: sudo chown jack:jack /mnt/jacks sudo chmod 755 /mnt/jacks ...though if you already did what jarom said, this should be unnecessary. -- Matthew Hatch On 03/25/2010 08:38 AM, Shawn Thompson wrote: > [sudo|su -c] chown jack:jack -R /mnt > That *should* fix the issue although you may have to repermission after > remount but not 100% on that. > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Remo Mattei > wrote: > > What is the line on fstab? > > Inviato da iPhone > > Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net > ha scritto: > > here is the result: > > > jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks > [sudo] password for jack: > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt > bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied > > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd > jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks > bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied > jack@jack-desktop:~$ > > > jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jarom Hatch" > > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" > > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada > Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership > > drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks > > > You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular > files, > the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the > user to > enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no > matter who the owner is. > > Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. > > Thanks > > Jarom > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net > channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net > channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net > channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From jshatch at azza.com Thu Mar 25 08:01:21 2010 From: jshatch at azza.com (Jarom Hatch) Date: Thu Mar 25 08:01:47 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BAB7AC1.7000300@azza.com> I think I'm just going to ignore you. On 03/25/2010 08:43 AM, Remo Mattei wrote: > Please if you do not know what you are talking let's not respond to it. If > you set the wrong options to the fstab it will not change permission. > > > > > On 3/25/10 08:31 , "Jarom Hatch" wrote: > >> It's not an fstab issue, it's a permissions issue. >> >> On 03/25/2010 08:16 AM, Remo Mattei wrote: >>> What is the line on fstab? >>> >>> Inviato da iPhone >>> >>> Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: >>> >>>> here is the result: >>>> >>>> >>>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks >>>> [sudo] password for jack: >>>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt >>>> bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied >>>> >>>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd >>>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks >>>> bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied >>>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ >>>> >>>> >>>> jack >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jarom Hatch" >>>> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >>>> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership >>>> >>>>> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks >>>> >>>> You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular files, >>>> the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the user to >>>> enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no >>>> matter who the owner is. >>>> >>>> Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Jarom >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>>> >>>> !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> >> !DSPAM:4bab742093902033139231! > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100325/8db12240/signature.pgp From jfriend31 at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 08:02:43 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Thu Mar 25 08:02:50 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <635e32ff1003250738s79289d12td683aac8e2ae3d91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1381507274.4626491269529363235.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> thank you jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Thompson" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:38:36 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership [sudo|su -c] chown jack:jack -R /mnt That *should* fix the issue although you may have to repermission after remount but not 100% on that. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Remo Mattei < remo@italy1.com > wrote: What is the line on fstab? Inviato da iPhone Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net ha scritto: here is the result: jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks [sudo] password for jack: jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied jack@jack-desktop:~$ jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarom Hatch" < jshatch@azza.com > To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" < sllug-members@sllug.org > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular files, the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the user to enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no matter who the owner is. Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. Thanks Jarom ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. 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Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From jshatch at azza.com Thu Mar 25 08:06:40 2010 From: jshatch at azza.com (Jarom Hatch) Date: Thu Mar 25 08:06:52 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <1302460212.4626021269529299226.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1302460212.4626021269529299226.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4BAB7C00.30306@azza.com> Jack, For the sake of sanity, if it still isn't working for you after the suggestions posted here (since many of them seem to conflict, I've been following this for a while now), feel free to contact me off-list and I'll be happy to assist you one-on-one or via remote access to get the problem solved and the machine working the way you desire. Too many cooks in the kitchen ... Thanks Jarom On 03/25/2010 09:01 AM, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > thank you > jack > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Hatch" > To: sllug-members@sllug.org > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:44:45 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership > > I wouldn't set /mnt to anything besides root:root. Do an 'ls -l' of / > and check that the permissions and owners for /mnt match this: > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-10-23 18:47 mnt > > ^---- Those permissions only allow root to write to the /mnt directory > but will allow everyone else read-only access to enter it. Then, if > /mnt/jacks has the same permissions (755) but is owned by jack:jack, you > can write to that directory. > > Run this: > > sudo chown root:root /mnt > sudo chmod 755 /mnt > > If you still can't get to '/mnt/jacks', run this: > > sudo chown jack:jack /mnt/jacks > sudo chmod 755 /mnt/jacks > > ...though if you already did what jarom said, this should be unnecessary. > > -- > Matthew Hatch > > On 03/25/2010 08:38 AM, Shawn Thompson wrote: >> [sudo|su -c] chown jack:jack -R /mnt >> That *should* fix the issue although you may have to repermission after >> remount but not 100% on that. >> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Remo Mattei > > wrote: >> >> What is the line on fstab? >> >> Inviato da iPhone >> >> Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net >> ha scritto: >> >> here is the result: >> >> >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks >> [sudo] password for jack: >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt >> bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied >> >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks >> bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ >> >> >> jack >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jarom Hatch" > >> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >> Mountain >> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership >> >> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks >> >> >> You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular >> files, >> the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the >> user to >> enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no >> matter who the owner is. >> >> Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jarom >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >> channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >> channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >> channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From remo at italy1.com Thu Mar 25 08:15:50 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Thu Mar 25 08:15:59 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <4BAB7C00.30306@azza.com> Message-ID: Agree. Good luck Remo On 3/25/10 09:06 , "Jarom Hatch" wrote: > Jack, > > For the sake of sanity, if it still isn't working for you after the > suggestions posted here (since many of them seem to conflict, I've been > following this for a while now), feel free to contact me off-list and > I'll be happy to assist you one-on-one or via remote access to get the > problem solved and the machine working the way you desire. > > Too many cooks in the kitchen ... > > Thanks > > Jarom > > On 03/25/2010 09:01 AM, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: >> thank you >> jack >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Matthew Hatch" >> To: sllug-members@sllug.org >> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:44:45 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership >> >> I wouldn't set /mnt to anything besides root:root. Do an 'ls -l' of / >> and check that the permissions and owners for /mnt match this: >> >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-10-23 18:47 mnt >> >> ^---- Those permissions only allow root to write to the /mnt directory >> but will allow everyone else read-only access to enter it. Then, if >> /mnt/jacks has the same permissions (755) but is owned by jack:jack, you >> can write to that directory. >> >> Run this: >> >> sudo chown root:root /mnt >> sudo chmod 755 /mnt >> >> If you still can't get to '/mnt/jacks', run this: >> >> sudo chown jack:jack /mnt/jacks >> sudo chmod 755 /mnt/jacks >> >> ...though if you already did what jarom said, this should be unnecessary. >> >> -- >> Matthew Hatch >> >> On 03/25/2010 08:38 AM, Shawn Thompson wrote: >>> [sudo|su -c] chown jack:jack -R /mnt >>> That *should* fix the issue although you may have to repermission after >>> remount but not 100% on that. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Remo Mattei >> > wrote: >>> >>> What is the line on fstab? >>> >>> Inviato da iPhone >>> >>> Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net >>> ha scritto: >>> >>> here is the result: >>> >>> >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks >>> [sudo] password for jack: >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt >>> bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied >>> >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks >>> bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied >>> jack@jack-desktop:~$ >>> >>> >>> jack >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jarom Hatch" > >>> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>> Mountain >>> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership >>> >>> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks >>> >>> >>> You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular >>> files, >>> the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the >>> user to >>> enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no >>> matter who the owner is. >>> >>> Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jarom >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >>> channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >>> channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >>> channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:4bab7c98136741221455225! > From jfriend31 at comcast.net Thu Mar 25 08:58:22 2010 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jfriend31@comcast.net) Date: Thu Mar 25 08:58:28 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <4BAB7C00.30306@azza.com> Message-ID: <141073712.4650971269532702855.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> you are most kind Jarom. thank you for your offer. i am going to await U 10.04. i will install that clean and see if the problems i have been having will disappear. Evolution won't send. can't copy to 2nd hard drive without root permissions. sometimes wallpaper is not full TwinView. can't configure USB to serial ports for use of ham radio logging program Xlog. all those problems may just go away in 10.04 if not, then will consider going thru this matter again. jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarom Hatch" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:06:40 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership Jack, For the sake of sanity, if it still isn't working for you after the suggestions posted here (since many of them seem to conflict, I've been following this for a while now), feel free to contact me off-list and I'll be happy to assist you one-on-one or via remote access to get the problem solved and the machine working the way you desire. Too many cooks in the kitchen ... Thanks Jarom On 03/25/2010 09:01 AM, jfriend31@comcast.net wrote: > thank you > jack > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Hatch" > To: sllug-members@sllug.org > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:44:45 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership > > I wouldn't set /mnt to anything besides root:root. Do an 'ls -l' of / > and check that the permissions and owners for /mnt match this: > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-10-23 18:47 mnt > > ^---- Those permissions only allow root to write to the /mnt directory > but will allow everyone else read-only access to enter it. Then, if > /mnt/jacks has the same permissions (755) but is owned by jack:jack, you > can write to that directory. > > Run this: > > sudo chown root:root /mnt > sudo chmod 755 /mnt > > If you still can't get to '/mnt/jacks', run this: > > sudo chown jack:jack /mnt/jacks > sudo chmod 755 /mnt/jacks > > ...though if you already did what jarom said, this should be unnecessary. > > -- > Matthew Hatch > > On 03/25/2010 08:38 AM, Shawn Thompson wrote: >> [sudo|su -c] chown jack:jack -R /mnt >> That *should* fix the issue although you may have to repermission after >> remount but not 100% on that. >> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Remo Mattei > > wrote: >> >> What is the line on fstab? >> >> Inviato da iPhone >> >> Il giorno Mar 25, 2010, alle ore 7:09, jfriend31@comcast.net >> ha scritto: >> >> here is the result: >> >> >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chmod a+x /mnt/jacks >> [sudo] password for jack: >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt >> bash: cd: /mnt: Permission denied >> >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /mnt/jacks >> bash: cd: /mnt/jacks: Permission denied >> jack@jack-desktop:~$ >> >> >> jack >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jarom Hatch" > >> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:03:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >> Mountain >> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: change ownership >> >> drw-rw-rw- 3 jack jack 4096 2010-03-22 19:49 jacks >> >> >> You do not have the 'x' bit set on the directory. For regular >> files, >> the x bit is the execute bit, but for directories it allows the >> user to >> enter. If it isn't set, nobody but root will be able to get in, no >> matter who the owner is. >> >> Run "chmod a+x /mnt/jacks" to set it properly. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jarom >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >> channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >> channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> !DSPAM:4bab60fd322031931245261! >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >> channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From roger at itigger.com Fri Mar 26 18:13:35 2010 From: roger at itigger.com (Roger Smith) Date: Fri Mar 26 18:13:46 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201003262013.35472.roger@itigger.com> On Thursday 25 March 2010 9:43:45 am Remo Mattei wrote: > Please if you do not know what you are talking let's not respond to > it. If you set the wrong options to the fstab it will not change > permission. You are completely hi, that's OK, I love Italians. I don't think Jarom said anything about the fstab. BUT... depending on the file system, you can set the permissions using mount options. FYI, when it comes to *NIX Jarom knows what the hell he is talking about. Besides the fact that he has been participating in this list, for years....! I used to work with him at Linux Networks, I also know where he is currently employed, and let's just say, it isn't Microsoft. Set the execute bit! chmod a+x /mnt/jacks Sup, Jarom? :-) From roger at itigger.com Fri Mar 26 18:23:34 2010 From: roger at itigger.com (Roger Smith) Date: Fri Mar 26 18:23:43 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: change ownership In-Reply-To: <201003262013.35472.roger@itigger.com> References: <201003262013.35472.roger@itigger.com> Message-ID: <201003262023.34370.roger@itigger.com> On Friday 26 March 2010 8:13:35 pm Roger Smith wrote: > years....! I used to work with him at Linux Networks, I also know s/Linux Networks/Linux Networx/ From marc at mecworks.com Tue Mar 30 13:15:30 2010 From: marc at mecworks.com (Marc Christensen) Date: Tue Mar 30 13:15:45 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Jury says Novell owns Unix copyrights! Message-ID: <4BB25BE2.2050303@mecworks.com> Here's a link to the story: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14786202 So, is this the end of SCO? Do they have another trick up their sleeve? -- Marc Christensen From sjansen at buscaluz.org Tue Mar 30 13:23:13 2010 From: sjansen at buscaluz.org (Stuart Jansen) Date: Tue Mar 30 13:23:19 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Shout it from the roof tops! Message-ID: <1269980593.2914.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> The SCO jury has issued its verdict. And the winner is... http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14786202 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100330152829622 -- "XML is like violence: if it doesn't solve your problem, you aren't using enough of it." - Chris Maden From u235sentinel at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 16:42:35 2010 From: u235sentinel at gmail.com (u235sentinel) Date: Tue Mar 30 16:42:50 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Jury says Novell owns Unix copyrights! In-Reply-To: <4BB25BE2.2050303@mecworks.com> References: <4BB25BE2.2050303@mecworks.com> Message-ID: <4BB28C6B.8000306@gmail.com> About freaking time. But then again when you dance with the devil, he never really goes away Marc Christensen wrote: > Here's a link to the story: > > http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14786202 > > So, is this the end of SCO? Do they have another trick up their sleeve? > > -- > Marc Christensen From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 16:47:36 2010 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Tue Mar 30 16:47:45 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Jury says Novell owns Unix copyrights! In-Reply-To: <4BB28C6B.8000306@gmail.com> References: <4BB25BE2.2050303@mecworks.com> <4BB28C6B.8000306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f932a4a1003301647h237a882ekb7f1d8280b6b0f7b@mail.gmail.com> LOL true. Eventually, they'll give up after wasting millions on legal fees that amount to nothing... Greed gets us nowhere, as you can see. ;) On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:42 PM, u235sentinel wrote: > About freaking time. But then again when you dance with the devil, he > never really goes away > > > Marc Christensen wrote: > >> Here's a link to the story: >> >> http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14786202 >> >> So, is this the end of SCO? Do they have another trick up their sleeve? >> >> -- >> Marc Christensen >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100330/3e742e9c/attachment.html From u235sentinel at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 17:19:23 2010 From: u235sentinel at gmail.com (u235sentinel) Date: Tue Mar 30 17:19:36 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Jury says Novell owns Unix copyrights! In-Reply-To: <2f932a4a1003301647h237a882ekb7f1d8280b6b0f7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BB25BE2.2050303@mecworks.com> <4BB28C6B.8000306@gmail.com> <2f932a4a1003301647h237a882ekb7f1d8280b6b0f7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BB2950B.5030100@gmail.com> I wish that were true.. it's worked for microsoft so far ;-) Justin Brinkerhoff wrote: > LOL true. Eventually, they'll give up after wasting millions on legal > fees that amount to nothing... > > Greed gets us nowhere, as you can see. ;) > > From thatch45 at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 18:28:26 2010 From: thatch45 at gmail.com (Thomas S Hatch) Date: Tue Mar 30 18:28:33 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Jury says Novell owns Unix copyrights! In-Reply-To: <4BB2950B.5030100@gmail.com> References: <4BB25BE2.2050303@mecworks.com> <4BB28C6B.8000306@gmail.com> <2f932a4a1003301647h237a882ekb7f1d8280b6b0f7b@mail.gmail.com> <4BB2950B.5030100@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6172c17e1003301828p5ffa6f95gabf6e79b2b2ec484@mail.gmail.com> Greed will always get you somewhere, the question is if that is where you want to be. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100330/3550f0fc/attachment.html From leif.a.andersen at gmail.com Tue Mar 30 18:38:29 2010 From: leif.a.andersen at gmail.com (Leif Andersen) Date: Tue Mar 30 18:38:57 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Jury says Novell owns Unix copyrights! In-Reply-To: <6172c17e1003301828p5ffa6f95gabf6e79b2b2ec484@mail.gmail.com> References: <4BB25BE2.2050303@mecworks.com> <4BB28C6B.8000306@gmail.com> <2f932a4a1003301647h237a882ekb7f1d8280b6b0f7b@mail.gmail.com> <4BB2950B.5030100@gmail.com> <6172c17e1003301828p5ffa6f95gabf6e79b2b2ec484@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: So, why didn't SCO go for Novell infringing upon patents? I mean, it is a much easier target than copyright, especially as GNU was designed to be a Unix rip off (rewrite) ~Leif Andersen ---------- My first contribution to the blender community: http://leifandersen.net/2010/03/23/good-feeling-my-first-slightly-major-open-source-contribution/ On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 19:28, Thomas S Hatch wrote: > Greed will always get you somewhere, the question is if that is where you > want to be. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100330/52afaa42/attachment.htm From remo at italy1.com Tue Mar 30 19:51:00 2010 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Tue Mar 30 19:51:19 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Jury says Novell owns Unix copyrights! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I worked with Caldera when we just got SCO, I did like Caldera and I still have good friends there. Too bad that they are getting into this c@@p. Remo On 3/30/10 19:38 , "Leif Andersen" wrote: > So, why didn't SCO go for Novell infringing upon patents? > > I mean, it is a much easier target than copyright, especially as GNU was > designed to be a Unix rip off (rewrite) > > ~Leif Andersen > > ---------- > My first contribution to the blender community: > http://leifandersen.net/2010/03/23/good-feeling-my-first-slightly-major-open-s > ource-contribution/ > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 19:28, Thomas S Hatch wrote: >> Greed will always get you somewhere, the question is if that is where you >> want to be. >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net >> channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > !DSPAM:4bb2a822143891937137087! > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > !DSPAM:4bb2a822143891937137087! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100330/a09c65a8/attachment.htm From beebe at math.utah.edu Wed Mar 31 08:50:51 2010 From: beebe at math.utah.edu (Nelson H. F. Beebe) Date: Wed Mar 31 08:51:01 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: [sllug-members] ComputerWorld stories on SCO vs Novell Message-ID: Here are pointers to two ComputerWorld stories on SCO vs Novell: Jury sides with Novell in long-running SCO battle http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9174466/Jury_sides_with_Novell_in_long_running_SCO_battle Novell wins! SCO loses! http://blogs.computerworld.com/15846/novell_wins_sco_loses ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aaron.toponce at gmail.com Wed Mar 31 14:39:18 2010 From: aaron.toponce at gmail.com (Aaron Toponce) Date: Wed Mar 31 14:39:37 2010 Subject: [sllug-members]: Jury says Novell owns Unix copyrights! In-Reply-To: <4BB25BE2.2050303@mecworks.com> References: <4BB25BE2.2050303@mecworks.com> Message-ID: <4BB3C106.3000308@gmail.com> On 3/30/2010 2:15 PM, Marc Christensen wrote: > Here's a link to the story: > > http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14786202 > > So, is this the end of SCO? Do they have another trick up their sleeve? > No, this is not the end. They will likely appeal the ruling, and most likely take the issue to the Supreme Court, if bankruptcy doesn't hit them first. Further, as Groklaw has mentioned, they will pursue potential contract litigation with IBM and will also seek to get the UNIX copyrights transferred from Novell to SCO. So, as much as I would like this to be over, it's a far cry from the truth. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100330152829622 -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O O . O . . O O O O . O O O -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 551 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20100331/1f5cf349/signature.pgp