From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 11:11:29 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Utah Open Source) Date: Tue Dec 1 11:11:43 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: UTOS Geek Lunch, December 3 @ 12:30pm - Pats BBQ Message-ID: <29daa6d2a6d88c5f3a3259a762e1aa52@sugar.utos.org> Hi all you fellow geeks, it's time once again for the monthly Geek Lunch. This month's lunch is a bit late for November so we're combining it with December's lunch and moving it to the first Thursday this month. The reason we're doing this is because we have a special guest who is joining us. She's a former Utahn who's returned for the holidays and wanted to spend a little geek time with the ones she really loves, us! If you don't know her, come and meet this local celebrity. She's the one and only Sheri Bigelow... Back from New York for a few days, she will be dining with us at Pat's Barbecue. (http://www.patsbbq.com) If you've never been to Pat's before, it's an amazing BBQ place. We'll be meeting in the main area in the back at one or two of the tables there. Make sure to look for our geek lunch logo. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/149379/img/geek_lunch.pdf) Here's all the details: Where: Pat's BBQ / 155 West Commonwealth Avenue (2125 South) / South Salt Lake, Utah 84115 (map: http://sn.im/pats-bbq) When: December 3, 12:30-2pm See you all there! Cheers, Clint From jfriend31 at comcast.net Tue Dec 1 17:54:00 2009 From: jfriend31 at comcast.net (jack b friend) Date: Tue Dec 1 17:53:56 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: CTX VL700 Message-ID: <1259715240.9611.1.camel@jack-desktop> CTX VL700 (CRT) monitor for give-a-way. anyone want it? old but still works fine. jack From bmidgley at xmission.com Fri Dec 4 18:10:27 2009 From: bmidgley at xmission.com (Brad Midgley) Date: Fri Dec 4 18:10:46 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: linux touchscreen Message-ID: Hey Does anyone have a standalone lcd touchscreen that works with linux that I could borrow for a week or buy? We just found out slimage's "linux support" consists of a driver built in 2007 and never updated. I need something I can get this weekend to really make the client happy again. Brad From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 18:50:38 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri Dec 4 18:50:45 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: SLLUG Daytime for December is cancelled Message-ID: Unless someone else wants to run the meeting, SLLUG daytime will not happen next Wednesday. Have a happy holiday season and we'll see you in early January. Clint From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 07:55:44 2009 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Mon Dec 7 07:55:54 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: SLLUG Daytime for December is cancelled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: BORING!!!! :( ..but i'm already presenting at ubuusers... On 12/4/09, Clint Savage wrote: > Unless someone else wants to run the meeting, SLLUG daytime will not > happen next Wednesday. > > Have a happy holiday season and we'll see you in early January. > > Clint > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster From beebe at math.utah.edu Tue Dec 8 13:28:53 2009 From: beebe at math.utah.edu (Nelson H. F. Beebe) Date: Tue Dec 8 13:29:12 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: [sllug-members] Linux at the Large Hadron Collider Message-ID: This story may interest some of you: High-Energy Linux: Linux & the Large Hadron Collider http://blogs.computerworld.com/15202/high_energy_linux_linux_the_large_hadron_collider?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2009-12-07 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From beebe at math.utah.edu Wed Dec 9 16:16:59 2009 From: beebe at math.utah.edu (Nelson H. F. Beebe) Date: Wed Dec 9 16:17:09 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: [sllug-members] IBM's Linux mainframe Message-ID: This story describes a machine that is out of the budget of most of us, but nevertheless nice to hear of: IBM's newest mainframe is all Linux http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142007/IBM_s_newest_mainframe_is_all_Linux_?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2009-12-09 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jim.kinney at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 16:59:32 2009 From: jim.kinney at gmail.com (Jim Kinney) Date: Wed Dec 9 16:59:37 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: [sllug-members] IBM's Linux mainframe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <437d2f230912091559g58700126k65127435c85d4752@mail.gmail.com> I want one of these: http://www.cray.com/Products/XT/Systems/XT6.aspx and funding to support the power and cooling and maybe a new place to live 'cause my wife already said "NO!" IBM has seen the light and it's all Penguins :-) On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > This story describes a machine that is out of the budget of > most of us, but nevertheless nice to hear of: > > IBM's newest mainframe is all Linux > > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142007/IBM_s_newest_mainframe_is_all_Linux_?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2009-12-09 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 > - > - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 > - > - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: > beebe@math.utah.edu - > - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@acm.org > beebe@computer.org - > - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: > http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- -- James P. Kinney III Actively in pursuit of Life, Liberty and Happiness -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20091209/112882f9/attachment.htm From aaron.toponce at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 17:22:57 2009 From: aaron.toponce at gmail.com (Aaron Toponce) Date: Wed Dec 9 17:23:11 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: [sllug-members] IBM's Linux mainframe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091210002257.GA20575@achilles.cocyt.us> On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 04:16:59PM -0700, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > This story describes a machine that is out of the budget of > most of us, but nevertheless nice to hear of: > > IBM's newest mainframe is all Linux > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142007/IBM_s_newest_mainframe_is_all_Linux_?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2009-12-09 Cool, but they're going to have to bring that price point down a couple notches. We just secured roughly 40TB of raw disk, flex-10 switching, 16 2 quad-core blades with 96GB of ram, fibre, ethernet and more hardware than you can shake a stick at for just slightly more than 200-grand. 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It sounds really exciting! -- Andrew Jackman kd7nyq@gmail.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. All your base are belong to us. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Scott Garman Date: Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:33 PM Subject: [PLUG] FSF "Respects Your Freedom" hardware endorsements. To: PLUG list I just received news from the Free Software Foundation that they are starting a hardware endorsement program to label devices that are fully compatible with free software. Vendors who choose to participate in the program will end up with a stamp on the packaging with the "Respects Your Freedom" slogan. The first product to get this endorsement is reportedly a netbook - I'm not sure of the manufacturer. This is great news for those of us who would prefer to buy Linux compatible hardware without spending hours on forum and wiki research to be "pretty sure" that new laptop model X will work well with Linux. Scott -- Scott Garman sgarman at zenlinux dot com _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug From adam.fisher at fishhatchery.net Sat Dec 12 21:07:59 2009 From: adam.fisher at fishhatchery.net (Adam Fisher) Date: Sat Dec 12 21:12:17 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: Monit In-Reply-To: <7f2da9a80911231212s376ffa94lc7b9ffa5acd0600@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17835117.55.1260677279684.JavaMail.root@mail> So a long time ago I used this in connection with munin to monitor just about everything. I liked the fact that monit could restart Daemons when it detected they had crashed. Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Attwood" To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions" Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:12:36 PM Subject: [sllug-members]: Monit I've found a utility that will monitor deamons and alert you if they crash. I've only touched the surface. I'll be using it to monitor nagios instances so I know if a server is offline or if a deamon crashes, and I'll setup automation to have it re-start the deamon. http://mmonit.com/monit/ I hope you guys can use this, too. If you know of others like it, ping back and lets make a list. Always good to have tools in the I.T. Toolbox. P.S. I sent this to PLUG, as well. -- Take care, William Attwood Idea Extraordinaire wattwood@gmail.com Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach - "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day." ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members From marc at sllug.org Sun Dec 13 12:39:52 2009 From: marc at sllug.org (Marc Christensen) Date: Sun Dec 13 12:40:00 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: No SLLUG meeting in December 2009 Message-ID: <4B254308.2030700@sllug.org> Hello everyone, This month, because of busyness, family, parties, shopping, etc. There will be no SLLUG meeting. Have a great holiday break! Look forward to January 2010 for a start to a great new year with the Salt Lake Linux Users Group! -- Marc Christensen http://www.sllug.org From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 08:41:19 2009 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Mon Dec 14 08:41:28 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: No SLLUG meeting in December 2009 In-Reply-To: <4B254308.2030700@sllug.org> References: <4B254308.2030700@sllug.org> Message-ID: boring!!! partys are boring compared to hanging out with other techies. On 12/13/09, Marc Christensen wrote: > Hello everyone, > > This month, because of busyness, family, parties, shopping, etc. There > will be no SLLUG meeting. Have a great holiday break! > > Look forward to January 2010 for a start to a great new year with the > Salt Lake Linux Users Group! > > -- > Marc Christensen > http://www.sllug.org > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster From beebe at math.utah.edu Tue Dec 15 19:12:21 2009 From: beebe at math.utah.edu (Nelson H. F. Beebe) Date: Tue Dec 15 19:12:39 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: [sllug-members] GPL lawsuits Message-ID: Some of you may be interested in these stories: Multiple consumer electronics companies hit with GPL lawsuit http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142262/Multiple_consumer_electronics_companies_hit_with_GPL_lawsuit SFLC hammers GPL violators http://blogs.computerworld.com/15254/sflc_hammers_gpl_violators What is nice to see is how many products are using free software. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 19:58:05 2009 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Tue Dec 15 19:58:19 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: [sllug-members] GPL lawsuits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f932a4a0912151858u41c363e4s5cee6241a67016fa@mail.gmail.com> About time someone starts to crack down on the GPL! :D On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > Some of you may be interested in these stories: > > ? ? ? ?Multiple consumer electronics companies hit with GPL lawsuit > ? ? ? ?http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142262/Multiple_consumer_electronics_companies_hit_with_GPL_lawsuit > > ? ? ? ?SFLC hammers GPL violators > ? ? ? ?http://blogs.computerworld.com/15254/sflc_hammers_gpl_violators > > What is nice to see is how many products are using free > software. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Nelson H. F. Beebe ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Tel: +1 801 581 5254 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- > - University of Utah ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?FAX: +1 801 581 4148 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- > - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB ? ?Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu ?- > - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? beebe@acm.org ?beebe@computer.org - > - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA ? ?URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 20:48:16 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Thu Dec 17 20:48:26 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: Electroregeneration Society Linux Installfest - Give your time during the holidays. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ladies and Gentleman, As the holiday season comes upon us, many think about those who are a bit less fortunate than us. ?I am no different in this category and feel like I would like to do something to help those who need a hand. This year, I plan to help the Electroregeneration Society (http://electroregeneration.org/) by heading down there for our inaugural "ERGS/UTOS Holiday Linux Installfest". I hope this might interest a few of you as well. ?And if so, please consider coming down anytime and donating your time. ?Here's the details: Location: Electroregeneration Society Warehouse (555 S 400 W, Salt Lake City, UT) (map: http://sn.im/ergs-map) Date: December 19, 2009 Time: 9am-5pm (Installfest starts at 10am) What can I bring? We'll be setting up the equipment at 9am. ?ERGS has power strips, ethernet switches, computers and monitors. ?If you have Ubuntu, Fedora or openSUSE install media (CD or DVDs are what we need), bring them with you. ?Please also bring your laptops so we can look up settings and the like if needed. ?I'll be bringing my laptop with a tethered phone too, just in case we're overwhelming the internets there. - Hide quoted text - Please come on down and donate your time, here's a bit of a spiel from Dave Turnbull, one of the many volunteers at ERGS: The Electroregeneration Society enriches lives through affordable access to technology by repurposing electronics, supporting technology education, and developing community partnerships." We primarily serve two groups -- charities and low-income families or individuals. We provide computers to 501(c)3 nonprofit organizations without regard to mission -- all nonprofits qualify. For individuals and families, we have a service-for-equipment program, where they provide 15 hours of service to ERGS in exchange for a desktop computer. The Utah Open Source Foundation's goals align with the Electroregeneration Society's goals because we'll be installing Linux on machines that will be repurposed. ?Sometimes, the machines are a bit older, Linux is the only simple way these machines will be able to be repurposed. If you have a few hours on Saturday, December 19, consider coming down and donating a bit of your time for a good cause and help us install Linux on as many machines as possible. ?I will be there with my family. ?I sure hope you can come as well. ?It's going to be a blast while helping the community get connected to the world :) See you all there, Clint Savage Utah Open Source Foundation From woodbrian77 at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 20:49:57 2009 From: woodbrian77 at gmail.com (Brian Wood) Date: Sat Dec 19 20:50:31 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: cat-like command In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is there a command something like cat that will copy a file into the copy/paste buffer, so I can paste the contents somewhere after running the command? Also I'd like to find someone willing to give me an account on a big-endian machine. I'm willing to give that person investments in Ebenezer Enterprises in exchange. TIA. -- Brian Wood Ebenezer Enterprises http://www.webEbenezer.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20091219/eda165bf/attachment.html From kenneth at mail1.ttak.org Sat Dec 19 21:19:25 2009 From: kenneth at mail1.ttak.org (Kenneth Burgener) Date: Sat Dec 19 21:19:34 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: cat-like command In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B2DA5CD.6030409@mail1.ttak.org> On 12/19/2009 8:49 PM, Brian Wood wrote: > Is there a command something like cat that will copy a > file into the copy/paste buffer, so I can paste the contents > somewhere after running the command? I believe you are looking for 'xclip' and 'xsel'. Kenneth From blendmaster1024 at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 19:19:17 2009 From: blendmaster1024 at gmail.com (Christian Horne) Date: Sun Dec 20 19:19:27 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: Electroregeneration Society Linux Installfest - Give your time during the holidays. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: looks like i missed something interesting, but that's ok, it was my bday. On 12/17/09, Clint Savage wrote: > Ladies and Gentleman, > > As the holiday season comes upon us, many think about those who are a > bit less fortunate than us. ?I am no different in this category and > feel like I would like to do something to help those who need a hand. > This year, I plan to help the Electroregeneration Society > (http://electroregeneration.org/) by heading down there for our > inaugural "ERGS/UTOS Holiday Linux Installfest". > > I hope this might interest a few of you as well. ?And if so, please > consider coming down anytime and donating your time. ?Here's the > details: > > Location: Electroregeneration Society Warehouse (555 S 400 W, Salt > Lake City, UT) (map: http://sn.im/ergs-map) > Date: December 19, 2009 > Time: 9am-5pm (Installfest starts at 10am) > > What can I bring? > > We'll be setting up the equipment at 9am. ?ERGS has power strips, > ethernet switches, computers and monitors. ?If you have Ubuntu, Fedora > or openSUSE install media (CD or DVDs are what we need), bring them > with you. ?Please also bring your laptops so we can look up settings > and the like if needed. ?I'll be bringing my laptop with a tethered > phone too, just in case we're overwhelming the internets there. > > - Hide quoted text - > Please come on down and donate your time, here's a bit of a spiel from > Dave Turnbull, one of the many volunteers at ERGS: > > The Electroregeneration Society enriches lives through affordable > access to technology by repurposing electronics, supporting technology > education, and developing community partnerships." > > We primarily serve two groups -- charities and low-income families or > individuals. We provide computers to 501(c)3 nonprofit organizations > without regard to mission -- all nonprofits qualify. For individuals > and families, we have a service-for-equipment program, where they > provide 15 hours of service to ERGS in exchange for a desktop > computer. > > The Utah Open Source Foundation's goals align with the > Electroregeneration Society's goals because we'll be installing Linux > on machines that will be repurposed. ?Sometimes, the machines are a > bit older, Linux is the only simple way these machines will be able to > be repurposed. > > If you have a few hours on Saturday, December 19, consider coming down > and donating a bit of your time for a good cause and help us install > Linux on as many machines as possible. ?I will be there with my > family. ?I sure hope you can come as well. ?It's going to be a blast > while helping the community get connected to the world :) > > See you all there, > > Clint Savage > Utah Open Source Foundation > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- the blendmaster From bms at mscis.org Tue Dec 22 14:55:13 2009 From: bms at mscis.org (Brandon Stout) Date: Tue Dec 22 14:55:36 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: bind9 errors Message-ID: <4B314041.5050007@mscis.org> Hello everyone, I have a problem on a latest (stable) Debian server with bind9. It is set up as a slave dns server, and just caches information from the master: # /etc/init.d/bind9 restart Stopping domain name service...: bind9rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused . Starting domain name service...: bind9. Fortunately, the server seems to be returning the correct dns information when queried, but I'd still like to find the source of this error before it becomes a problem. When I google string "bind9rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused", I find several pages that solved this same error by with chown root:bind /etc/bind/rndc.key . That did not solve the problem. It does not matter if it belongs to bind or to root, or even if the file is world readable: I still get the same error. The setup, since it's just pointing to a master server, is really quite simple. named.conf points at named.conf.local and named.conf.options. I'll reply with some log entries from /var/log/{syslog,daemon.log,auth.log,messages} if anyone wants to see anything there, but none of them have anything come up when restarting the server, and I've set the server to a higher logging level: logging { channel default_debug { syslog syslog; severity dynamic; }; }; I'll also launch it with /usr/sbin/named -u bind -g -d 50 and post the output if requested. I'm just keeping this first inquiry short for those who read these messages on phones. Thank you, Brandon From unum at unum5.org Tue Dec 22 15:56:05 2009 From: unum at unum5.org (Kyle Waters) Date: Tue Dec 22 15:56:23 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: Electroregeneration Society Linux Installfest - Give your time during the holidays. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B314E85.1060003@unum5.org> Christian Horne wrote: > looks like i missed something interesting, but that's ok, it was my bday. > > There will be opportunities to volunteer more after the Holidays we plan on being open most Saturdays. Kyle From waoki at waoki.org Wed Dec 23 00:56:00 2009 From: waoki at waoki.org (Will Aoki) Date: Wed Dec 23 00:56:05 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: bind9 errors In-Reply-To: <4B314041.5050007@mscis.org> References: <4B314041.5050007@mscis.org> Message-ID: <20091223075600.GA14572@waoki.org> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 02:55:13PM -0700, Brandon Stout wrote: > I have a problem on a latest (stable) Debian server with bind9. It is > set up as a slave dns server, and just caches information from the master: > > # /etc/init.d/bind9 restart > Stopping domain name service...: bind9rndc: connect failed: > 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused > . > Starting domain name service...: bind9. I would expect that message if BIND wasn't running when you issued that command. The init script (as shipped with Debian) invokes rndc to stop the running named process, but if none's running, rndc isn't able to connect to it and fails harmlessly with the above error. -- William Aoki waoki@waoki.org KD7YAF From jared.bernard at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 10:37:06 2009 From: jared.bernard at gmail.com (Jared Bernard) Date: Wed Dec 23 10:46:56 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors Message-ID: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> I can't seem to figure this one out so I'm hoping someone here can point me in the right direction. I have a rsync script I use for backing up data on my file server and I constantly get errors on the same handful of files everytime the script runs. Here is the output: ------------- rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes [sender]: Broken pipe (32) rsync: write failed on "/media/backup/backups/OTR/Journey Into Space/RY-Ep140-JourneyIntoSpace-TheRedPlanet-20.mp3": +Input/output error (5) rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at receiver.c(259) [receiver=2.6.9] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (87981 bytes received so far) [generator] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(454) [generator=2.6.9] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (36 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(454) [sender=2.6.9] rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes [sender]: Broken pipe (32) rsync: write failed on "/media/backup/backups/Spoken_Word/Church/Power of Endowment.wav": Input/output error (5) rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at receiver.c(259) [receiver=2.6.9] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (218732 bytes received so far) [generator] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(454) [generator=2.6.9] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (36 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(454) [sender=2.6.9] rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes [sender]: Broken pipe (32) rsync: write failed on "/media/backup/backups/Family/Anthony/2008 02 Feb/2008 Feb walking in snow.avi": Input/output error +(5) rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at receiver.c(259) [receiver=2.6.9] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (10083 bytes received so far) [generator] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(454) [generator=2.6.9] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (36 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(454) [sender=2.6.9] rsync: readdir("/media/backup/backups/Pictures/Church/Poplar Grove Ward"): Input/output error (5) IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/media/backup/backups/Pictures/Church/Poplar Grove Ward/July 2009" failed: Input/output error +(5) *** Skipping everything below this failed directory *** rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/media/backup/backups/Pictures/Church/Poplar Grove Ward/October 2008" failed: Input/output +error (5) *** Skipping everything below this failed directory *** rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/media/backup/backups/Pictures/Church/Poplar Grove Ward/Octoberfest 2007" failed: +Input/output error (5) *** Skipping everything below this failed directory *** rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes [sender]: Broken pipe (32) rsync: write failed on "/media/backup/backups/Pictures/Family/Jared & Coralee/Anthony/2009 03 April/IMG_1271.JPG": +Input/output error (5) rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (146 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(454) [sender=2.6.9] -------------- I can't seem to identify what is different about these files then the ones that sync without any issues. For example, the first mp3 file (RY-Ep140-JourneyIntoSpace-TheRedPlanet-20.mp3) listed in the ouput, is in a directory with 19 other similar files that sync fine. I've verified that the file is not corrupt. Any ideas? Jared Bernard "Don't Fear the Penguin!" http://bernard-fam.blogspot.com - Personal Family Blog http://mostlycli.blogspot.com - Linux Blog http://www.jaredandcoralee.com/CLIapps.html - Command Linux Applications From kwalker at kobran.org Wed Dec 23 11:16:26 2009 From: kwalker at kobran.org (Knight Walker) Date: Wed Dec 23 11:16:31 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1261592186.2337.5.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:37 -0700, Jared Bernard wrote: > I can't seem to figure this one out so I'm hoping someone here can point me in > the right direction. > > I have a rsync script I use for backing up data on my file server and I > constantly get errors on the same handful of files everytime the script runs. > Here is the output: [ SNIP ] > I can't seem to identify what is different about these files then the ones that > sync without any issues. For example, the first mp3 file > (RY-Ep140-JourneyIntoSpace-TheRedPlanet-20.mp3) listed in the ouput, is in a > directory with 19 other similar files that sync fine. I've verified that the > file is not corrupt. I would run SMART tests on both source and especially destination disks. Check DMESG for any and all write errors or any disk errors in general. Not sure why it's picking those files. It could just be random chance or corrupted destination folder. How full is the backup (destination) disk? -KW From shawn at willden.org Wed Dec 23 11:27:46 2009 From: shawn at willden.org (Shawn Willden) Date: Wed Dec 23 11:27:56 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:37:06 am Jared Bernard wrote: > I can't seem to figure this one out so I'm hoping someone here can point me > in the right direction. Can you write the files into their destination directory another way? There's an error writing to the stream, but it looks like it might be triggered by an error writing to the destination file system. If some other method of copying the problem files into place succeeds, then you'll know the issue is something rsync is doing. I'm wondering if it might not be a more fundamental issue, though. Shawn. From jeff at zingstudios.com Wed Dec 23 11:38:50 2009 From: jeff at zingstudios.com (Jeff Schroeder) Date: Wed Dec 23 11:39:10 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> Message-ID: <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> > If some other method of copying the problem files into place succeeds, > then you'll know the issue is something rsync is doing. I'm > wondering if it might not be a more fundamental issue, though. I concur. When I saw the errors my first thought was filesystem corruption. Try to copy the files locally and see if it works, or even use scp so it's a remote copy similar to what rsync is doing. If either of these work, then rsync is probably the culprit. If not, it's the filesystem. You could also delete the local file and re-rsync, to see if it copies okay. The rationale here is that by deleting the file and copying again, you're most likely using other blocks on the filesystem. If that works, again it points to a filesystem problem in the blocks used by the original file. HTH, Jeff From jared.bernard at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 11:53:02 2009 From: jared.bernard at gmail.com (Jared Bernard) Date: Wed Dec 23 12:02:53 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> Message-ID: <4b32694c.5444f10a.337d.7771@mx.google.com> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Jeff Schroeder wrote: >> If some other method of copying the problem files into place succeeds, >> then you'll know the issue is something rsync is doing. I'm >> wondering if it might not be a more fundamental issue, though. > > I concur. When I saw the errors my first thought was filesystem > corruption. Try to copy the files locally and see if it works, or even > use scp so it's a remote copy similar to what rsync is doing. If > either of these work, then rsync is probably the culprit. If not, it's > the filesystem. > > You could also delete the local file and re-rsync, to see if it copies > okay. The rationale here is that by deleting the file and copying > again, you're most likely using other blocks on the filesystem. If > that works, again it points to a filesystem problem in the blocks used > by the original file. > > HTH, > Jeff So, I used cp to the backup directory and received a similar error. I then used cp to copy the original to another directory on the same partition which worked. I guess it's a filesystem issue then. If this is the case, how do I go about repairing the filesystem? Jared > From ewfalor at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 13:32:51 2009 From: ewfalor at gmail.com (Erik Falor) Date: Wed Dec 23 13:33:03 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <4b32694c.5444f10a.337d.7771@mx.google.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> <4b32694c.5444f10a.337d.7771@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20091223203249.GH1611@gnu.prunk.si> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:53:02AM -0700, Jared Bernard wrote: > So, I used cp to the backup directory and received a similar error. I > then used cp to copy the original to another directory on the same > partition which worked. > > I guess it's a filesystem issue then. If this is the case, how do I go about > repairing the filesystem? Unmount the filesystem and run fsck on it. You'll most likely need to go into single-user or maintenance mode for this to work. Another option is to boot into a live-CD and do it from there. Here are a few links that go into more detail: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-checkrepair-fsck-filesystem.html http://www.kernelhardware.org/how-should-run-fsck-linux-file-system/comment-page-1/ -- Erik Falor Registered Linux User #445632 http://counter.li.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think it's more likely a disk problem. Perhaps the blocks that store the directory data are failing. It's probably worth doing an fsck on the partition, and maybe doing a read of the whole partition (e.g. cat /dev/sda4 >> /dev/null), but my guess is that it's SMART off-line tests that will do the most to show you the extent of the problem. -- Shawn From jared.bernard at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 14:59:52 2009 From: jared.bernard at gmail.com (Jared Bernard) Date: Wed Dec 23 15:09:35 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <773c89340912231235hf80230ar62994810467ddeb4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> <4b32694c.5444f10a.337d.7771@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231235hf80230ar62994810467ddeb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b329517.5544f10a.37b2.792e@mx.google.com> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jared Bernard wrote: >> So, I used cp to the backup directory and received a similar error. I >> then used cp to copy the original to another directory on the same partition >> which worked. >> >> I guess it's a filesystem issue then. If this is the case, how do I go about >> repairing the filesystem? > > I think it's more likely a disk problem. Perhaps the blocks that > store the directory data are failing. It's probably worth doing an > fsck on the partition, and maybe doing a read of the whole partition > (e.g. cat /dev/sda4 >> /dev/null), but my guess is that it's SMART > off-line tests that will do the most to show you the extent of the > problem. > > -- > Shawn Thanks everyone. fsck seemed to do the job. I'm error free. I've never used fsck before. It's quite a handy tool. Jared From shawn at willden.org Wed Dec 23 15:29:10 2009 From: shawn at willden.org (Shawn Willden) Date: Wed Dec 23 15:29:19 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <4b329517.5544f10a.37b2.792e@mx.google.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> <4b32694c.5444f10a.337d.7771@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231235hf80230ar62994810467ddeb4@mail.gmail.com> <4b329517.5544f10a.37b2.792e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <773c89340912231429o6573be8ay255ac42a1059c6a@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Jared Bernard wrote: > Thanks everyone. fsck seemed to do the job. I'm error free. I've never used > fsck before. It's quite a handy tool. Cool. I'd still do a little more testing, though. I/O errors aren't usually file system errors, but hardware errors. At the very least I'd 'cat' the whole partition to /dev/null and see if there are any other unreadable blocks. You can do that while the system is up and running. Just run (as root) 'cat /dev/$whatever >> /dev/null' and see if you get any error messages. -- Shawn From bms at mscis.org Wed Dec 23 15:48:22 2009 From: bms at mscis.org (Brandon Stout) Date: Wed Dec 23 15:48:29 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: bind9 errors In-Reply-To: <20091223075600.GA14572@waoki.org> References: <4B314041.5050007@mscis.org> <20091223075600.GA14572@waoki.org> Message-ID: <4B329E36.2040306@mscis.org> On 12/23/2009 12:56 AM, Will Aoki wrote: > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 02:55:13PM -0700, Brandon Stout wrote: > >> I have a problem on a latest (stable) Debian server with bind9. It is >> set up as a slave dns server, and just caches information from the master: >> >> # /etc/init.d/bind9 restart >> Stopping domain name service...: bind9rndc: connect failed: >> 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused >> . >> Starting domain name service...: bind9. >> > I would expect that message if BIND wasn't running when you issued that > command. The init script (as shipped with Debian) invokes rndc to stop > the running named process, but if none's running, rndc isn't able to > connect to it and fails harmlessly with the above error. > > Thank you for your suggestion. It appears the issue has resolved itself, so it's going to be hard to troubleshoot now. I think rndc was running because when I checked status, it said bind9 is running. It seems I ran rndc status and iirc it was running, too, but now I can't double check because the error is gone. # /etc/init.d/bind9 status bind9 is running. #rndc status version: 9.5.1-P3 number of zones: 46 debug level: 0 xfers running: 0 xfers deferred: 0 soa queries in progress: 0 query logging is OFF recursive clients: 0/0/1000 tcp clients: 0/100 server is up and running # /etc/init.d/bind9 restart Stopping domain name service...: bind9 waiting for pid 13182 to die. Starting domain name service...: bind9 Brandon From kwalker at kobran.org Wed Dec 23 15:54:12 2009 From: kwalker at kobran.org (Knight Walker) Date: Wed Dec 23 15:54:19 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <773c89340912231429o6573be8ay255ac42a1059c6a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> <4b32694c.5444f10a.337d.7771@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231235hf80230ar62994810467ddeb4@mail.gmail.com> <4b329517.5544f10a.37b2.792e@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231429o6573be8ay255ac42a1059c6a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1261608852.2337.25.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 15:29 -0700, Shawn Willden wrote: > Just run (as root) 'cat /dev/$whatever >> /dev/null' and see if you > get any error messages. I would also run smartctl tests on the drive itself. Something like this (Again, as root): # smartctl -t short /dev/sda smartctl version 5.38 [i386-redhat-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF OFFLINE IMMEDIATE AND SELF-TEST SECTION === Sending command: "Execute SMART Short self-test routine immediately in off-line mode". Drive command "Execute SMART Short self-test routine immediately in off-line mode" successful. Testing has begun. Please wait 2 minutes for test to complete. Test will complete after Wed Dec 23 15:52:56 2009 Use smartctl -X to abort test. Wait the time it says to wait, then run this: # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda If it shows something like this: smartctl version 5.38 [i686-redhat-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 14406 - If it says anything about a test failing, and especially if it has anything in the LBA_of_first_error column, make sure you've got everything important backed up somewhere else, because the drive may be going bad. From canopus56 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 23 17:45:20 2009 From: canopus56 at yahoo.com (Canopus56) Date: Wed Dec 23 17:45:29 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: OpenSUSE package errors Message-ID: <129687.16127.qm@web113316.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Any tips on resolving the following errors would be appreciated. Linux OpenSUSE newibe. - Kurt Download failed: '/repodata/repomd.xml/' not found medium 'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/pgajdos/openSUSE_11.1/' followed by: #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2009-12-23 17:40:52 #### kernel-default-extra-2.6.27.39-0.2.1.i586 requires kernel-default_i586 = 2.6.27.39-0.2.1, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: kernel-default-2.6.27.39-0.2.1.i586[repo-update] [ ] do not install patch:kernel-1593.noarch [ ] Ignore some dependencies of kernel-default-extra [ ] replacement of uvcvideo-kmp-default-r260_2.6.27.19_3.2-1.1.i586 with kernel-default-2.6.27.39-0.2.1.i586 #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### From beebe at math.utah.edu Wed Dec 23 17:54:53 2009 From: beebe at math.utah.edu (Nelson H. F. Beebe) Date: Wed Dec 23 17:55:02 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: [sllug-members] One Laptop Per Child project news Message-ID: Some of you may be interested in this news story: Opinion: OLPC plans super-thin, super-cheap tablet http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142650/Opinion_OLPC_plans_super_thin_super_cheap_tablet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jared.bernard at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 18:07:06 2009 From: jared.bernard at gmail.com (Jared Bernard) Date: Wed Dec 23 18:16:56 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <1261608852.2337.25.camel@localhost> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> <4b32694c.5444f10a.337d.7771@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231235hf80230ar62994810467ddeb4@mail.gmail.com> <4b329517.5544f10a.37b2.792e@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231429o6573be8ay255ac42a1059c6a@mail.gmail.com> <1261608852.2337.25.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4b32c0fe.5744f10a.3de5.ffff9203@mx.google.com> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Knight Walker wrote: > On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 15:29 -0700, Shawn Willden wrote: >> Just run (as root) 'cat /dev/$whatever >> /dev/null' and see if you >> get any error messages. > > I would also run smartctl tests on the drive itself. Something like this > (Again, as root): > > anything in the LBA_of_first_error column, make sure you've got > everything important backed up somewhere else, because the drive may be > going bad. > Here is my output from smartctl ---------- === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed: read failure 60% 31936 1052751 # 2 Short offline Completed: read failure 60% 31936 1052751 # 3 Short offline Completed: read failure 60% 14234 96144380 # 4 Short offline Completed: read failure 60% 14234 96144380 -------------- What exactly does this mean? Does it mean I have bad sectors or something more serious? Is this drive definitely on it's way out? Thanks, Jared > From canopus56 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 23 18:40:57 2009 From: canopus56 at yahoo.com (Canopus56) Date: Wed Dec 23 18:41:05 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: Update error fix - newibe q Message-ID: <107610.93741.qm@web113302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Any help fixing this update error would be appreciated. OpenSuse newbie user. PackageKit Error dep-resolution-failed: kernel-pae-extra-2.6.27.39-0.2.1.i586 requires kernel-pae_i586 = 2.6.27.39-0.2.1, but this requirement cannot be provided From shawn at willden.org Wed Dec 23 20:31:56 2009 From: shawn at willden.org (Shawn Willden) Date: Wed Dec 23 20:32:05 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <4b32c0fe.5744f10a.3de5.ffff9203@mx.google.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> <4b32694c.5444f10a.337d.7771@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231235hf80230ar62994810467ddeb4@mail.gmail.com> <4b329517.5544f10a.37b2.792e@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231429o6573be8ay255ac42a1059c6a@mail.gmail.com> <1261608852.2337.25.camel@localhost> <4b32c0fe.5744f10a.3de5.ffff9203@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <773c89340912231931o77a97c67jeb3d96de672ed46e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jared Bernard wrote: > What exactly does this mean? Does it mean I have bad sectors or something > more serious? Is this drive definitely on it's way out? It means it has bad sectors, and on modern drives that's very serious. For the last several years all drives have done automatic remapping of bad sectors. The drive's firmware notices a problem and relocates the data to a spare sector. By the time you get bad sectors actually showing up at the OS level, it means that the drive has already used up its spares. It's time to replace that drive. And it's likely that not everything on it will be recoverable. To find out how bad it is, you might try tar'ing up all the files on all the partitions. You can just write the output to /dev/null, and then pay attention to how many files have I/O errors. Something like: "tar cv /mountpoint >> /dev/null" Run that for the mount point of each partition on the drive. If it all succeeds without errors then at least you should be able to recover all your data from the drive. Probably. -- Shawn From kwalker at kobran.org Wed Dec 23 11:16:26 2009 From: kwalker at kobran.org (Knight Walker) Date: Thu Dec 24 10:29:44 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1261592186.2337.5.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:37 -0700, Jared Bernard wrote: > I can't seem to figure this one out so I'm hoping someone here can point me in > the right direction. > > I have a rsync script I use for backing up data on my file server and I > constantly get errors on the same handful of files everytime the script runs. > Here is the output: [ SNIP ] > I can't seem to identify what is different about these files then the ones that > sync without any issues. For example, the first mp3 file > (RY-Ep140-JourneyIntoSpace-TheRedPlanet-20.mp3) listed in the ouput, is in a > directory with 19 other similar files that sync fine. I've verified that the > file is not corrupt. I would run SMART tests on both source and especially destination disks. Check DMESG for any and all write errors or any disk errors in general. Not sure why it's picking those files. It could just be random chance or corrupted destination folder. How full is the backup (destination) disk? -KW From kwalker at kobran.org Wed Dec 23 15:54:12 2009 From: kwalker at kobran.org (Knight Walker) Date: Thu Dec 24 10:29:50 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: rsync errors In-Reply-To: <773c89340912231429o6573be8ay255ac42a1059c6a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b325784.5544f10a.31df.5e63@mx.google.com> <200912231127.47172.shawn@willden.org> <200912231138.50870.jeff@zingstudios.com> <4b32694c.5444f10a.337d.7771@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231235hf80230ar62994810467ddeb4@mail.gmail.com> <4b329517.5544f10a.37b2.792e@mx.google.com> <773c89340912231429o6573be8ay255ac42a1059c6a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1261608852.2337.25.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 15:29 -0700, Shawn Willden wrote: > Just run (as root) 'cat /dev/$whatever >> /dev/null' and see if you > get any error messages. I would also run smartctl tests on the drive itself. Something like this (Again, as root): # smartctl -t short /dev/sda smartctl version 5.38 [i386-redhat-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF OFFLINE IMMEDIATE AND SELF-TEST SECTION === Sending command: "Execute SMART Short self-test routine immediately in off-line mode". Drive command "Execute SMART Short self-test routine immediately in off-line mode" successful. Testing has begun. Please wait 2 minutes for test to complete. Test will complete after Wed Dec 23 15:52:56 2009 Use smartctl -X to abort test. Wait the time it says to wait, then run this: # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda If it shows something like this: smartctl version 5.38 [i686-redhat-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 14406 - If it says anything about a test failing, and especially if it has anything in the LBA_of_first_error column, make sure you've got everything important backed up somewhere else, because the drive may be going bad. From reilithion at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 14:27:38 2009 From: reilithion at gmail.com (Lucas Paul) Date: Tue Dec 29 14:27:47 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: Fwd: [PLUG] FSF "Respects Your Freedom" hardware endorsements. In-Reply-To: <79c119390912101655p696daaf3s9031ade51793dad2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B219376.6090600@zenlinux.com> <79c119390912101655p696daaf3s9031ade51793dad2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Um, can I just say, "HUZZAH!" On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 17:55, Andrew Jackman wrote: > I normally wouldn't forward stuff, but has anyone heard about this? > It sounds really exciting! > > -- > Andrew Jackman > kd7nyq@gmail.com > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any > attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original message. All your base are belong > to us. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Scott Garman > Date: Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:33 PM > Subject: [PLUG] FSF "Respects Your Freedom" hardware endorsements. > To: PLUG list > > > I just received news from the Free Software Foundation that they are > starting a hardware endorsement program to label devices that are fully > compatible with free software. Vendors who choose to participate in the > program will end up with a stamp on the packaging with the "Respects > Your Freedom" slogan. > > The first product to get this endorsement is reportedly a netbook - I'm > not sure of the manufacturer. > > This is great news for those of us who would prefer to buy Linux > compatible hardware without spending hours on forum and wiki research to > be "pretty sure" that new laptop model X will work well with Linux. > > Scott > > -- > Scott Garman > sgarman at zenlinux dot com > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- ????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20091229/1a318d2a/attachment.htm From reilithion at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 14:39:14 2009 From: reilithion at gmail.com (Lucas Paul) Date: Tue Dec 29 14:39:26 2009 Subject: [sllug-members]: [sllug-members] GPL lawsuits In-Reply-To: <2f932a4a0912151858u41c363e4s5cee6241a67016fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f932a4a0912151858u41c363e4s5cee6241a67016fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I hope this serves to make people more aware of Free Software and the freedoms and responsibilities that come with it. The decision to include BusyBox in these products was probably made by engineers who know about such things, but the lack of source code indicates the legal departments of these companies are probably clueless. The ideal resolution for these lawsuits is out-of-court settlement and new policies about how free software is used and treated in these companies. I just really hope they choose to continue using free software instead of taking the "safe" way out and replacing it with their own proprietary solutions. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 19:58, Justin Brinkerhoff < justinbrinkerhoff@gmail.com> wrote: > About time someone starts to crack down on the GPL! :D > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Nelson H. F. Beebe > wrote: > > Some of you may be interested in these stories: > > > > Multiple consumer electronics companies hit with GPL lawsuit > > > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142262/Multiple_consumer_electronics_companies_hit_with_GPL_lawsuit > > > > SFLC hammers GPL violators > > http://blogs.computerworld.com/15254/sflc_hammers_gpl_violators > > > > What is nice to see is how many products are using free > > software. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 > - > > - University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 > - > > - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB Internet e-mail: > beebe@math.utah.edu - > > - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@acm.org > beebe@computer.org - > > - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: > http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ - > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > > sllug-members@sllug.org > > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- ????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <4B219376.6090600@zenlinux.com> <79c119390912101655p696daaf3s9031ade51793dad2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You would Lucas.... :P Although I don't care much about the FSF's sticker, I am excited to see more hardware that 'just works' with linux. ~Leif ---------- Has Google got too big?: http://leifandersen.net/2009/12/23/when-companies-are-too-large/ On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 14:27, Lucas Paul wrote: > Um, can I just say, "HUZZAH!" > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 17:55, Andrew Jackman wrote: > >> I normally wouldn't forward stuff, but has anyone heard about this? >> It sounds really exciting! >> >> -- >> Andrew Jackman >> kd7nyq@gmail.com >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any >> attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may >> contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >> review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not >> the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >> destroy all copies of the original message. All your base are belong >> to us. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Scott Garman >> Date: Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:33 PM >> Subject: [PLUG] FSF "Respects Your Freedom" hardware endorsements. >> To: PLUG list >> >> >> I just received news from the Free Software Foundation that they are >> starting a hardware endorsement program to label devices that are fully >> compatible with free software. Vendors who choose to participate in the >> program will end up with a stamp on the packaging with the "Respects >> Your Freedom" slogan. >> >> The first product to get this endorsement is reportedly a netbook - I'm >> not sure of the manufacturer. >> >> This is great news for those of us who would prefer to buy Linux >> compatible hardware without spending hours on forum and wiki research to >> be "pretty sure" that new laptop model X will work well with Linux. >> >> Scott >> >> -- >> Scott Garman >> sgarman at zenlinux dot com >> _______________________________________________ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> > > > > -- > 気をつけて > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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