[sllug-members]: Re: sllug-members Digest, Vol 42, Issue 15

Steve Hildebrand stevehildebrand757 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 13 10:59:05 MST 2008


I added a link to the Wiki to a graph showing the US as 25th in broadband penetration worldwide:
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/bw/0704/

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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:00:08 PM
Subject: sllug-members Digest, Vol 42, Issue 15


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Today's 
Topics:

  
 
1. 
Re: 
UTOPIA 
on 
Utah 
NOW 
- 
justify! 
(David 
J 
Iannucci)
  
 
2. 
RE: 
HB139 
dead? 
(tonedevf)
  
 
3. 
Re: 
HB139 
dead? 
(Kyle 
Waters)


-----Inline Message Follows-----

On 
Mon, 
21 
Jan 
2008 
16:17:47 
-0700, 
"u235sentinel" 
said:
> 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZ33bvY5SQ
>
> 
Brian 
Roberts 
makes 
a 
lot 
of 
the 
arguments 
for 
us 
in 
why 
this 
is
> 
important.

I 
had 
forgotten 
about 
this 
video, 
and 
am 
finally 
getting 
around 
to
watching 
it 
right 
now.

I 
have 
written 
up 
an 
explanation 
of 
the 
UTOPIA 
issue 
for 
the 
producers
of 
Utah 
NOW, 
so 
they 
have 
an 
idea 
what 
this 
is 
about, 
based 
on 
what 
I
know, 
which 
isn't 
much.  
I've 
put 
it 
on 
a 
mini-wiki, 
and 
would 
like 
to
encourage 
anyone 
with 
something 
to 
add 
to 
edit 
the 
wiki 
directly.

  
http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/UTOPIAonUtahNOW

You 
can 
edit 
anonymously 
- 
just 
click 
the 
edit 
tab. 
I'd 
ask 
you 
not 
to
increase 
the 
length 
much, 
because 
I 
don't 
want 
to 
put 
them 
off 
by 
giving
them 
too 
much 
work 
to 
do 
:-), 
and 
also 
not 
to 
incorporate 
arguments 
for
or 
against 
the 
issue.  
That's 
for 
the 
show 
guests 
to 
do.  
This 
is 
just
to 
let 
the 
producers 
know 
that 
it's 
something 
worth 
putting 
on 
TV.

I'll 
leave 
it 
up 
there 
about 
a 
week 
before 
finally 
sending 
it 
on 
to
KUED.  
Thanks 
for 
your 
help!  
And 
please 
feel 
free 
to 
tell 
anyone 
else
who 
can 
contribute 
to 
the 
wikidoc.

Dave


On 
Mon, 
21 
Jan 
2008 
16:17:47 
-0700, 
"u235sentinel" 
said:
> 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZ33bvY5SQ
>
> 
Brian 
Roberts 
makes 
a 
lot 
of 
the 
arguments 
for 
us 
in 
why 
this 
is
> 
important.

I 
had 
forgotten 
about 
this 
video, 
and 
am 
finally 
getting 
around 
to
watching 
it 
right 
now.

I 
have 
written 
up 
an 
explanation 
of 
the 
UTOPIA 
issue 
for 
the 
producers
of 
Utah 
NOW, 
so 
they 
have 
an 
idea 
what 
this 
is 
about, 
based 
on 
what 
I
know, 
which 
isn't 
much.  
I've 
put 
it 
on 
a 
mini-wiki, 
and 
would 
like 
to
encourage 
anyone 
with 
something 
to 
add 
to 
edit 
the 
wiki 
directly.

  
http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/UTOPIAonUtahNOW

You 
can 
edit 
anonymously 
- 
just 
click 
the 
edit 
tab. 
I'd 
ask 
you 
not 
to
increase 
the 
length 
much, 
because 
I 
don't 
want 
to 
put 
them 
off 
by 
giving
them 
too 
much 
work 
to 
do 
:-), 
and 
also 
not 
to 
incorporate 
arguments 
for
or 
against 
the 
issue.  
That's 
for 
the 
show 
guests 
to 
do.  
This 
is 
just
to 
let 
the 
producers 
know 
that 
it's 
something 
worth 
putting 
on 
TV.

I'll 
leave 
it 
up 
there 
about 
a 
week 
before 
finally 
sending 
it 
on 
to
KUED.  
Thanks 
for 
your 
help!  
And 
please 
feel 
free 
to 
tell 
anyone 
else
who 
can 
contribute 
to 
the 
wikidoc.

Dave



-----Inline Message Follows-----

Kyle 
wrote:
>>> 
My 
understanding 
is 
that 
most 
other 
isp's 
are 
backing 
this 
bill 
because
it 
makes 
it 
more 
difficult 
for 
their 
customers 
to 
share 
their 
connection
with 
their 
neighbors.  
I 
believe 
it 
was 
mostly 
the 
work 
of 
constituents 
of
Representative 
Daw 
that 
stopped 
this 
bill.


You 
believe 
Daw's 
people 
*stopped* 
this 
bill?  
Try 
*sponsored* 
this 
bill.

We'll 
leave 
discussing 
big 
ISP's 
interests 
or 
liability 
fears 
for 
a 
later,
more 
enlightened 
day.



Kyle 
wrote:
>>> 
My 
understanding 
is 
that 
most 
other 
isp's 
are 
backing 
this 
bill 
because
it 
makes 
it 
more 
difficult 
for 
their 
customers 
to 
share 
their 
connection
with 
their 
neighbors.  
I 
believe 
it 
was 
mostly 
the 
work 
of 
constituents 
of
Representative 
Daw 
that 
stopped 
this 
bill.


You 
believe 
Daw's 
people 
*stopped* 
this 
bill?  
Try 
*sponsored* 
this 
bill.

We'll 
leave 
discussing 
big 
ISP's 
interests 
or 
liability 
fears 
for 
a 
later,
more 
enlightened 
day.




-----Inline Message Follows-----

tonedevf 
wrote:
>
> 
You 
believe 
Daw's 
people 
*stopped* 
this 
bill?  
Try 
*sponsored* 
this 
bill.
>
>  
 

When 
I 
say 
constituents 
I 
mean 
people 
he 
represents 
that 
wrote 
to 
him 
opposing 
this 
bill.  
A 
few 
of 
them 
shared 
their 
emails 
with 
the 
plug 
list.  
He 
responded 
to 
those 
emails 
and 
asked 
to 
meet 
with 
them.  
They 
in 
turn 
invited 
the 
rest 
of 
us.

Kyle


tonedevf 
wrote:
>
> 
You 
believe 
Daw's 
people 
*stopped* 
this 
bill?  
Try 
*sponsored* 
this 
bill.
>
>  
 

When 
I 
say 
constituents 
I 
mean 
people 
he 
represents 
that 
wrote 
to 
him 
opposing 
this 
bill.  
A 
few 
of 
them 
shared 
their 
emails 
with 
the 
plug 
list.  
He 
responded 
to 
those 
emails 
and 
asked 
to 
meet 
with 
them.  
They 
in 
turn 
invited 
the 
rest 
of 
us.

Kyle

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