From tarrant.rollins at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 00:34:17 2008 From: tarrant.rollins at gmail.com (Tarrant Rollins) Date: Wed Dec 3 00:00:06 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: DIY hardware shops Message-ID: Hey I've been gaining intrest in hardware hacking. I was wondering if anyone is aware of a local shop where I can pickup things like, soldering irons, multimeters, leds and the such? Thanks for any help that can be offered. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081202/e1bbd0b7/attachment.html From u235sentinel at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 08:02:15 2008 From: u235sentinel at gmail.com (u235sentinel) Date: Wed Dec 3 07:29:22 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: DIY hardware shops In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49369F77.7070702@gmail.com> Tarrant Rollins wrote: > Hey I've been gaining intrest in hardware hacking. I was wondering if > anyone is aware of a local shop where I can pickup things like, > soldering irons, multimeters, leds and the such? > > Thanks for any help that can be offered. Recently I asked a similar question here and many people suggested RA-Elco 2780 S Main St, Salt Lake City, UT 84115-3543 Contact Phone: (801) 487-7749 URL (web address): Business Category: Whol Electronic Parts/Equipment in Salt Lake City, UT Industry (SIC): Electronic Parts and Equipment, NEC http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_dgwjzs They worked out pretty good and have quite the selection for the hardware hacker. Check them out if you have a moment. From thatch45 at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 08:12:24 2008 From: thatch45 at gmail.com (Thomas S Hatch) Date: Wed Dec 3 07:38:13 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: DIY hardware shops In-Reply-To: <49369F77.7070702@gmail.com> References: <49369F77.7070702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6172c17e0812030712x6d4669ffq386fd82ce0ef0869@mail.gmail.com> Ra-Elco is one of the coolest places around, when I needed a new power supply for a scanner I called them, they didn't have one but they told me how to build one over the phone. Sure I diddn't build a power supply, but these guys know thier stuff. -Tom Hatch On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:02 AM, u235sentinel wrote: > Tarrant Rollins wrote: > >> Hey I've been gaining intrest in hardware hacking. I was wondering if >> anyone is aware of a local shop where I can pickup things like, soldering >> irons, multimeters, leds and the such? >> >> Thanks for any help that can be offered. >> > > Recently I asked a similar question here and many people suggested RA-Elco > > 2780 S Main St, Salt Lake City, UT 84115-3543 > > Contact Phone: (801) 487-7749 > URL (web address): > Business Category: Whol Electronic Parts/Equipment in Salt Lake City, > UT > Industry (SIC): Electronic Parts and Equipment, NEC > > > > http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_dgwjzs > > > They worked out pretty good and have quite the selection for the hardware > hacker. Check them out if you have a moment. > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081203/bfd030c2/attachment.htm From fozz at xmission.com Wed Dec 3 08:16:24 2008 From: fozz at xmission.com (Doran L. Barton) Date: Wed Dec 3 07:42:17 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: DIY hardware shops In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812030816.29538.fozz@xmission.com> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 00:34:17 Tarrant Rollins wrote: > Hey I've been gaining intrest in hardware hacking. I was wondering if > anyone is aware of a local shop where I can pickup things like, soldering > irons, multimeters, leds and the such? Standard Supply Electronics ? 3424 South Main Street ? Salt Lake City, UT 84115 ? Phone: (800) 453 - 7036 / (801) 486 - 3371 http://www.standardsupply.com/ -- Doran L. Barton - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and more! "Has any part of your body suddenly grown uncontrollable?" -- Seen on a Japanese medical form -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081203/a468759e/attachment.pgp From csum77 at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 12:55:31 2008 From: csum77 at gmail.com (csum77@gmail.com) Date: Wed Dec 3 12:27:29 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: IT Consultant Position Available Message-ID: Hi all! I'm looking for an IT consultant to help me out with a very heavy workload. Full details can be found here: http://bit.ly/rD9e Here's the short version: - Experienced with Windows Server 2003/Active Directory/Small Business Server/Exchange/etc. - Experienced with basic helpdesk-type support (my printer won't print, Outlook's giving me an error, etc.) - Experience with Linux a plus, but not required (we'll help train you on it) - Great personality, good & comfortable dealing with people. - Reliable transportation (most work is done remotely, but housecalls are required too). Our clients range from Payson to Salt Lake, but the most commonly visited ones (weekly) are in Orem, Midvale, and Salt Lake City. - Probably starting out part-time, but likely growing to full-time very shortly. If any of you are interested, or know someone who this would be a good fit for, please get in touch with me. This position is available immediately, and I'm anxious to get it filled. Additionally, I have one client we can no longer consult due to a conflict of interest that has arisen. This client has around 30 employees, runs Win2k3 server, Ubuntu (server), and Trixbox (CentOS/Asterisk/etc.), and about 30 Windows XP Pro desktops. I'm looking for a good home for them, so if you are interested please email me and let me know. Please pass this along to anyone you think might be interested. Email me for more info - jobs@thriveis.com Thanks! -Charlie Charlie Sumpter ThriveIS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081203/fedddae9/attachment.html From stevehildebrand757 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 3 13:51:23 2008 From: stevehildebrand757 at yahoo.com (Steve Hildebrand) Date: Wed Dec 3 13:17:15 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Re: sllug-members Digest, Vol 52, Issue 1 References: <200812031900.mB3J03l6026894@sllug.org> Message-ID: <65905.38503.qm@web90403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Allied is kind of spendy, but if Allied doesn't have it, it doesn't exist. You can order stuff from them online. Our go-to when I was in the military was Standard Electronics. If you are just looking for stuff to mess around with, you can get inexpensive stuff from Radio Shack, really. I mean, you don't necessarily need a top-of-the-line Tektronics colour o-scope with nanosecond resolution of you just want to weld a couple of chips together. ________________________________ From: "sllug-members-request@sllug.org" To: sllug-members@sllug.org Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 12:00:03 PM Subject: sllug-members Digest, Vol 52, Issue 1 Send sllug-members mailing list submissions to sllug-members@sllug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to sllug-members-request@sllug.org You can reach the person managing the list at sllug-members-owner@sllug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of sllug-members digest..." Today's Topics: 1. DIY hardware shops (Tarrant Rollins) 2. Re: DIY hardware shops (u235sentinel) 3. Re: DIY hardware shops (Thomas S Hatch) 4. Re: DIY hardware shops (Doran L. Barton) -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Hey I've been gaining intrest in hardware hacking. I was wondering if anyone is aware of a local shop where I can pickup things like, soldering irons, multimeters, leds and the such? Thanks for any help that can be offered. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Ra-Elco is one of the coolest places around, when I needed a new power supply for a scanner I called them, they didn't have one but they told me how to build one over the phone. Sure I diddn't build a power supply, but these guys know thier stuff. -Tom Hatch On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:02 AM, u235sentinel wrote: Tarrant Rollins wrote: Hey I've been gaining intrest in hardware hacking. I was wondering if anyone is aware of a local shop where I can pickup things like, soldering irons, multimeters, leds and the such? Thanks for any help that can be offered. Recently I asked a similar question here and many people suggested RA-Elco 2780 S Main St, Salt Lake City, UT 84115-3543 Contact Phone: (801) 487-7749 URL (web address): Business Category: Whol Electronic Parts/Equipment in Salt Lake City, UT Industry (SIC): Electronic Parts and Equipment, NEC http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_dgwjzs They worked out pretty good and have quite the selection for the hardware hacker. Check them out if you have a moment. ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ______________________________________________________________________ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah sllug-members@sllug.org http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081203/52bfa8d9/attachment.htm From remo at italy1.com Wed Dec 3 15:04:11 2008 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Wed Dec 3 14:33:17 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: IT Consultant Position Available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Contact me off line Remo@italy1.com Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 04/dic/08, alle ore 03:55, "csum77@gmail.com" ha scritto: > Hi all! I'm looking for an IT consultant to help me out with a very > heavy workload. Full details can be found here: http://bit.ly/rD9e > > Here's the short version: > Experienced with Windows Server 2003/Active Directory/Small Business > Server/Exchange/etc. > Experienced with basic helpdesk-type support (my printer won't > print, Outlook's giving me an error, etc.) > Experience with Linux a plus, but not required (we'll help train you > on it) > Great personality, good & comfortable dealing with people. > Reliable transportation (most work is done remotely, but housecalls > are required too). Our clients range from Payson to Salt Lake, but > the most commonly visited ones (weekly) are in Orem, Midvale, and > Salt Lake City. > Probably starting out part-time, but likely growing to full-time > very shortly. > If any of you are interested, or know someone who this would be a > good fit for, please get in touch with me. This position is > available immediately, and I'm anxious to get it filled. > > Additionally, I have one client we can no longer consult due to a > conflict of interest that has arisen. This client has around 30 > employees, runs Win2k3 server, Ubuntu (server), and Trixbox (CentOS/ > Asterisk/etc.), and about 30 Windows XP Pro desktops. I'm looking > for a good home for them, so if you are interested please email me > and let me know. > > Please pass this along to anyone you think might be interested. > > Email me for more info - jobs@thriveis.com > > Thanks! > > -Charlie > Charlie Sumpter > ThriveIS > !DSPAM:4936e68a76871540612102! > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > !DSPAM:4936e68a76871540612102! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081204/ca3a0c24/attachment-0001.htm From remo at italy1.com Thu Dec 4 03:43:22 2008 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Thu Dec 4 03:09:15 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> Message-ID: <703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com> Use vwmare Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 04/dic/08, alle ore 15:59, "Nobunari Isono" ha scritto: > Hi my name is Nobu. > > I?m a U student. > > I am wondering that someone who knows how to install Linux(Fedora) > and Windows and Mac in one Machine. > > Also I would like to make home server using Linux, are there > anyone who can help? > > > > Thank you > > Nobu > > > > !DSPAM:49378f53190941193317758! > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > !DSPAM:49378f53190941193317758! From caleb at macjunk.net Thu Dec 4 03:55:15 2008 From: caleb at macjunk.net (Caleb Call) Date: Thu Dec 4 03:21:02 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> <703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com> Message-ID: <276929710812040255j7f5db405g75a5d00e97bf28ab@mail.gmail.com> Yep, I know there are ways to triple boot but I've heard all of them have issues. So, unless you really need the native hardware support in all three OSes, I'd too would strongly recommend vmware. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Remo Mattei wrote: > Use vwmare > > Inviato da iPhone > > Il giorno 04/dic/08, alle ore 15:59, "Nobunari Isono" > ha scritto: > > Hi my name is Nobu. >> >> I'm a U student. >> >> I am wondering that someone who knows how to install Linux(Fedora) and >> Windows and Mac in one Machine. >> >> Also I would like to make home server using Linux, are there anyone who >> can help? >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> Nobu >> >> >> >> !DSPAM:49378f53190941193317758! >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> >> !DSPAM:49378f53190941193317758! >> > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081204/0b5d6468/attachment.htm From jeffquiparle at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 09:26:01 2008 From: jeffquiparle at gmail.com (Jeff Shipley) Date: Thu Dec 4 08:56:40 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <276929710812040255j7f5db405g75a5d00e97bf28ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> <703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com> <276929710812040255j7f5db405g75a5d00e97bf28ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm not quite sure how it would work on a mac, but you can look into bootcamp. If you didn't need mac then it's generally easy to set up different partitions (fairly easy to do with most linux installs, or even with a windows install). Just install fedora last and it should add windows and mac to it's grub. Done. If you want to go with virtualization (really not a bad idea, unless you need 3d hardware acceleration) I would recommend VirtualBox. It's free, unlike parallels or vmware (there is a free version of vmware, but it doesn't work on a mac). It's from Sun Microsystems, and most of it is open source (there is a proprietary version that is the open source version + some proprietary tools). -- Jeff On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Caleb Call wrote: > Yep, I know there are ways to triple boot but I've heard all of them have > issues. So, unless you really need the native hardware support in all three > OSes, I'd too would strongly recommend vmware. > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Remo Mattei wrote: >> >> Use vwmare >> >> Inviato da iPhone >> >> Il giorno 04/dic/08, alle ore 15:59, "Nobunari Isono" >> ha scritto: >> >>> Hi my name is Nobu. >>> >>> I'm a U student. >>> >>> I am wondering that someone who knows how to install Linux(Fedora) and >>> Windows and Mac in one Machine. >>> >>> Also I would like to make home server using Linux, are there anyone who >>> can help? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> Nobu >>> >>> >>> >>> !DSPAM:49378f53190941193317758! >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >>> >>> !DSPAM:49378f53190941193317758! >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > From mark.k.spute at L-3com.com Thu Dec 4 09:50:47 2008 From: mark.k.spute at L-3com.com (mark.k.spute@L-3com.com) Date: Thu Dec 4 09:16:52 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Virtualization Question Was: RE: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com><703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com><276929710812040255j7f5db405g75a5d00e97bf28ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> If one were running Vmware or VirtualBox or similar and had their Linux workstation and a windows workstation up simultaneously, is it possible to "cut and paste" between them? Just curious. Mark [snip] If you want to go with virtualization (really not a bad idea, unless you need 3d hardware acceleration) I would recommend VirtualBox. It's free, unlike parallels or vmware (there is a free version of vmware, but it doesn't work on a mac). It's from Sun Microsystems, and most of it is open source (there is a proprietary version that is the open source version + some proprietary tools). [snip] From jasonwright365 at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 10:11:03 2008 From: jasonwright365 at gmail.com (Jason Wright) Date: Thu Dec 4 09:36:49 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Virtualization Question Was: RE: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> <703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com> <276929710812040255j7f5db405g75a5d00e97bf28ab@mail.gmail.com> <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> Message-ID: <65ab78e30812040911r50b37bbp55ce8c66070b5820@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:50 AM, wrote: > If one were running Vmware or VirtualBox or similar and had their Linux > workstation and a windows workstation up simultaneously, is it possible > to "cut and paste" between them? > > Just curious. > > Mark > > [snip] > > If you want to go with virtualization (really not a bad idea, unless you > need 3d hardware acceleration) I would recommend VirtualBox. It's free, > unlike parallels or vmware (there is a free version of vmware, but it > doesn't work on a mac). It's from Sun Microsystems, and most of it is > open source (there is a proprietary version that is the open source > version + some proprietary tools). > > [snip] At the expense of sounding like an advertisement, VMware offers VMware tools: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/new_guest_tools_ws.html "With the VMware Tools SVGA driver installed, Workstation supports significantly faster graphics performance. The VMware Tools package provides support required for shared folders and for drag and drop operations. Other tools in the package support synchronization of time in the guest operating system with time on the host, automatic grabbing and releasing of the mouse cursor, copying and pasting between guest and host, and improved mouse performance in some guest operating systems. " Other virtual machine solutions probably have something similar. -Jason Wright From kmahan at xmission.com Thu Dec 4 10:17:08 2008 From: kmahan at xmission.com (Kurt Mahan) Date: Thu Dec 4 09:42:59 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Virtualization Question Was: RE: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com><703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com><276929710812040255j7f5db405g75a5d00e97bf28ab@mail.gmail.com> <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> Message-ID: <49381094.7080400@xmission.com> Hi Mark, Yes it is. I currently use VirtualBox, but I've used VMWare in the past. To enable this you need to install the local tools on the target VM (it's just little package that merges things in quite well). Both VirtualBox and VMWare have a local tools package. Once installed everything is seamless. (though YMMV) --Kurt mark.k.spute@l-3com.com wrote: > If one were running Vmware or VirtualBox or similar and had their Linux > workstation and a windows workstation up simultaneously, is it possible > to "cut and paste" between them? > > Just curious. > > Mark > > [snip] > > If you want to go with virtualization (really not a bad idea, unless you > need 3d hardware acceleration) I would recommend VirtualBox. It's free, > unlike parallels or vmware (there is a free version of vmware, but it > doesn't work on a mac). It's from Sun Microsystems, and most of it is > open source (there is a proprietary version that is the open source > version + some proprietary tools). > > [snip] > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > From kd7nyq at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 10:24:10 2008 From: kd7nyq at gmail.com (Andrew Jackman) Date: Thu Dec 4 09:49:58 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> Message-ID: <79c119390812040924y4dcb0838q634579af8a079630@mail.gmail.com> Nobu: I just got my apartment up at the U. I'll be attending during the Spring. I'd love to show you what I've got going for a dedicated server machine. Unfortunately, I'll probably be moving it to a friends house so that I can continue to host my web services on it -- the U apartments won't allow any kind of private web servers on their network. Contact me apart from the list if you're interested. Andrew Jackman kd7nyq@gmail.com On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Nobunari Isono wrote: > Hi my name is Nobu. > > I'm a U student. > > I am wondering that someone who knows how to install Linux(Fedora) and > Windows and Mac in one Machine. > > Also I would like to make home server using Linux, are there anyone who > can help? > > > > Thank you > > Nobu > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > From u235sentinel at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 10:29:38 2008 From: u235sentinel at gmail.com (u235sentinel) Date: Thu Dec 4 09:56:46 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Virtualization Question Was: RE: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <49381094.7080400@xmission.com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com><703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com><276929710812040255j7f5db405g75a5d00e97bf28ab@mail.gmail.com> <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> <49381094.7080400@xmission.com> Message-ID: <49381382.4000702@gmail.com> Kurt Mahan wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Yes it is. I currently use VirtualBox, but I've used VMWare in the past. > > To enable this you need to install the local tools on the target VM > (it's just little package that merges things in quite well). Both > VirtualBox and VMWare have a local tools package. Once installed > everything is seamless. (though YMMV) > > --Kurt > > > I've also used VMware in the past. So when I heard about VirtualBox I decided to give it a spin. So far I haven't found any issues. From sharing local folders to the virtual environment to setting up NAT or video resolution. Seems to work ok with many of the guest OS's I've setup including Wintendo XP, Solaris or BSD. I'm currently using it for XP and Vegas Video work I do now and then. What's funny is with my new system (running Ubuntu 8.04) it renders video's faster than my past (native) XP environment. Very surprising wrinkle. So far I haven't found a native Linux NLE that I liked. So far they all suck and some suck really bad. I'm still looking. But until then VirtualBox seems to be the answer for now. From jeffquiparle at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 11:02:35 2008 From: jeffquiparle at gmail.com (Jeff Shipley) Date: Thu Dec 4 10:28:21 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> Message-ID: Oh, and for making a home server, it's really easy. Just get a base (or server) install of pretty much any distro. Make sure that the network is working on it, and that you can ssh into it. After that's working, you just have to figure out what you want it to serve, and install/configure those programs. -- Jeff On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Nobunari Isono wrote: > Hi my name is Nobu. > > I'm a U student. > > I am wondering that someone who knows how to install Linux(Fedora) and > Windows and Mac in one Machine. > > Also I would like to make home server using Linux, are there anyone who > can help? > > > > Thank you > > Nobu > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > From jeffquiparle at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 11:05:27 2008 From: jeffquiparle at gmail.com (Jeff Shipley) Date: Thu Dec 4 10:39:41 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Virtualization Question Was: RE: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> <703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com> <276929710812040255j7f5db405g75a5d00e97bf28ab@mail.gmail.com> <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> Message-ID: IIRC, that works just fine. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:50 AM, wrote: > If one were running Vmware or VirtualBox or similar and had their Linux > workstation and a windows workstation up simultaneously, is it possible > to "cut and paste" between them? > > Just curious. > > Mark > > [snip] > > If you want to go with virtualization (really not a bad idea, unless you > need 3d hardware acceleration) I would recommend VirtualBox. It's free, > unlike parallels or vmware (there is a free version of vmware, but it > doesn't work on a mac). It's from Sun Microsystems, and most of it is > open source (there is a proprietary version that is the open source > version + some proprietary tools). > > [snip] > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > From aaron.toponce at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 12:08:37 2008 From: aaron.toponce at gmail.com (Aaron Toponce) Date: Thu Dec 4 11:41:26 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> Message-ID: <49382AB5.4070705@gmail.com> Nobunari Isono wrote: > I am wondering that someone who knows how to install Linux(Fedora) and > Windows and Mac in one Machine. Just FYI, but installing Mac OS X on any hardware other than "Apple-labeled" hardware is breaking the license: "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time." [1] > Also I would like to make home server using Linux, are there anyone who > can help? I would recommend Ubuntu. It's rock-solid, has a reputation for being secure, and of course, it's the most user-friendly distribution available. Tons of documentation, support and users. Debian stable would be another option at looking into, although it isn't as user-friendly. [1] http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html -- _ Aaron Toponce ( ) ASCII Ribbon Campaign www.aarontoponce.org X www.asciiribbon.org / \ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Time/Date: ---------- Monday, December 8, 2008 6:30 p.m. Place: ---------- Room 104 in Lower Warnock Engineering Building More details here: http://www.cs.utah.edu/organick/2008-09/ Have a wonderful Holiday season! See you at the lecture and see you in January for an official SLLUG meeting once again! -- Marc Christensen http://www.sllug.org From tvanry at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 15:19:30 2008 From: tvanry at gmail.com (Thad Van Ry) Date: Thu Dec 4 14:45:23 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: FS: 2.4GHz 24dBi Parabolic Grid Antenna Message-ID: <38fc83270812041419k52c487d2v85b04e952c15f317@mail.gmail.com> I'm wanting to sell a used 2.4GHz 24dBi Parabolic Grid Antenna similar to the one seen here: http://www.netkrom.com/prod_ant_24ghz_out_24dBi_ParabolicGrid.html I don't have a mounting pole with it. Just the antenna with a 10 inch cable that has a N-Type (female) connector. I'll consider any reasonable offer for it. I work in downtown Salt Lake and live in Woods Cross. If you are interested, please let me know. Thanks. Thad From remo at italy1.com Thu Dec 4 15:43:25 2008 From: remo at italy1.com (Remo Mattei) Date: Thu Dec 4 15:09:18 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Virtualization Question Was: RE: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com><703DC936-7707-4819-BFC4-55CACBA638DA@italy1.com><276929710812040255j7f5db405g75a5d00e97bf28ab@mail.gmail.com> <2B2CEF0E4EE10B449E5D9BB95E6DA0E8096DBE@MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com> Message-ID: <45809A8C-3E5B-421A-9AC9-0D75A6606A08@italy1.com> Yes if you have vw tools installed Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 05/dic/08, alle ore 00:50, mark.k.spute@l-3com.com ha scritto: > If one were running Vmware or VirtualBox or similar and had their > Linux > workstation and a windows workstation up simultaneously, is it > possible > to "cut and paste" between them? > > Just curious. > > Mark > > [snip] > > If you want to go with virtualization (really not a bad idea, unless > you > need 3d hardware acceleration) I would recommend VirtualBox. It's > free, > unlike parallels or vmware (there is a free version of vmware, but it > doesn't work on a mac). It's from Sun Microsystems, and most of it is > open source (there is a proprietary version that is the open source > version + some proprietary tools). > > [snip] > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > !DSPAM:49380b28283831804284693! > From jeremy at worrells.org Fri Dec 5 14:55:02 2008 From: jeremy at worrells.org (Jeremy Worrells) Date: Fri Dec 5 16:32:48 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Triple Boot and Home Server In-Reply-To: <49382AB5.4070705@gmail.com> References: <005401c955e6$49257380$db705a80$@com> <49382AB5.4070705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7980118b0812051355m372e2127o58e9960723999ce9@mail.gmail.com> I don't think that license violation is much of a worry. Get yourself an apple-logo sticker (label) and put it on the system. Presto! An Apple-labeled computer! Unfortunate wording there, Apple. Jeremy On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote: > Nobunari Isono wrote: > > I am wondering that someone who knows how to install Linux(Fedora) and > > Windows and Mac in one Machine. > > Just FYI, but installing Mac OS X on any hardware other than > "Apple-labeled" hardware is breaking the license: > > "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple > Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time." [1] > > > Also I would like to make home server using Linux, are there anyone who > > can help? > > I would recommend Ubuntu. It's rock-solid, has a reputation for being > secure, and of course, it's the most user-friendly distribution > available. Tons of documentation, support and users. Debian stable would > be another option at looking into, although it isn't as user-friendly. > > [1] http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html > -- > _ > Aaron Toponce ( ) ASCII Ribbon Campaign > www.aarontoponce.org X www.asciiribbon.org > / \ > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.netchannel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -- Jeremy Worrells jeremy.worrells@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081205/ffdce1fa/attachment.html From matt at frozenatom.com Fri Dec 5 21:26:26 2008 From: matt at frozenatom.com (Matt Nelson) Date: Fri Dec 5 21:56:20 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: FS: 2.4GHz 24dBi Parabolic Grid Antenna In-Reply-To: <38fc83270812041419k52c487d2v85b04e952c15f317@mail.gmail.com> References: <38fc83270812041419k52c487d2v85b04e952c15f317@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <148f6bb30812052026h16b46832o5c37eb80f176649a@mail.gmail.com> If anyone still needs one, and Thad has already departed from his, I have one as well that I would be willing to part with, however I don't want to stomp on Thad, so please contact him first. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Thad Van Ry wrote: > I'm wanting to sell a used 2.4GHz 24dBi Parabolic Grid Antenna similar > to the one seen here: > http://www.netkrom.com/prod_ant_24ghz_out_24dBi_ParabolicGrid.html > > I don't have a mounting pole with it. Just the antenna with a 10 inch > cable that has a N-Type (female) connector. > I'll consider any reasonable offer for it. > I work in downtown Salt Lake and live in Woods Cross. If you are > interested, please let me know. > Thanks. > Thad > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081205/a0e5c4c9/attachment.htm From kd7nyq at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 22:36:21 2008 From: kd7nyq at gmail.com (Andrew Jackman) Date: Fri Dec 5 22:02:07 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: FS: 2.4GHz 24dBi Parabolic Grid Antenna In-Reply-To: <148f6bb30812052026h16b46832o5c37eb80f176649a@mail.gmail.com> References: <38fc83270812041419k52c487d2v85b04e952c15f317@mail.gmail.com> <148f6bb30812052026h16b46832o5c37eb80f176649a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79c119390812052136u638f4269s9a32dddf72d86c71@mail.gmail.com> Are the power specs the same as that in the site? In other words, can this be used as a transmitting antenna? Jackman. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Matt Nelson wrote: > If anyone still needs one, and Thad has already departed from his, I have > one as well that I would be willing to part with, however I don't want to > stomp on Thad, so please contact him first. > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Thad Van Ry wrote: >> >> I'm wanting to sell a used 2.4GHz 24dBi Parabolic Grid Antenna similar >> to the one seen here: >> http://www.netkrom.com/prod_ant_24ghz_out_24dBi_ParabolicGrid.html >> >> I don't have a mounting pole with it. Just the antenna with a 10 inch >> cable that has a N-Type (female) connector. >> I'll consider any reasonable offer for it. >> I work in downtown Salt Lake and live in Woods Cross. If you are >> interested, please let me know. >> Thanks. >> Thad >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > From tvanry at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 08:59:53 2008 From: tvanry at gmail.com (tvanry@gmail.com) Date: Sat Dec 6 08:25:38 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: FS: 2.4GHz 24dBi Parabolic Grid Antenna In-Reply-To: <79c119390812052136u638f4269s9a32dddf72d86c71@mail.gmail.com> References: <38fc83270812041419k52c487d2v85b04e952c15f317@mail.gmail.com> <148f6bb30812052026h16b46832o5c37eb80f176649a@mail.gmail.com> <79c119390812052136u638f4269s9a32dddf72d86c71@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <38fc83270812060759r355b4401qefdcf4d8157e3021@mail.gmail.com> Yes. On 12/5/08, Andrew Jackman wrote: > Are the power specs the same as that in the site? In other words, can > this be used as a transmitting antenna? > > Jackman. > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Matt Nelson wrote: >> If anyone still needs one, and Thad has already departed from his, I have >> one as well that I would be willing to part with, however I don't want to >> stomp on Thad, so please contact him first. >> >> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Thad Van Ry wrote: >>> >>> I'm wanting to sell a used 2.4GHz 24dBi Parabolic Grid Antenna similar >>> to the one seen here: >>> http://www.netkrom.com/prod_ant_24ghz_out_24dBi_ParabolicGrid.html >>> >>> I don't have a mounting pole with it. Just the antenna with a 10 inch >>> cable that has a N-Type (female) connector. >>> I'll consider any reasonable offer for it. >>> I work in downtown Salt Lake and live in Woods Cross. If you are >>> interested, please let me know. >>> Thanks. >>> Thad >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > From unum at unum5.org Mon Dec 8 10:26:57 2008 From: unum at unum5.org (Kyle Waters) Date: Mon Dec 8 09:53:03 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: free html class Message-ID: <493D58E1.3080200@unum5.org> Someone expressed an interest in this at a previous meeting. http://www.slcpl.lib.ut.us/events.jsp?parent_id=10&page_id=244 Kyle From nathamberlane at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 12:55:04 2008 From: nathamberlane at gmail.com (Nathan Lane) Date: Mon Dec 8 12:20:49 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Managing Sessions using Perl without CGI.pm Message-ID: <9afbd5b90812081155v74f16ca9o88110cc369a74d46@mail.gmail.com> Can anybody explain to me the most secure and best way of managing sessions using Perl CGI without being able to use CGI.pm? Or is it possible to copy my own version of CGI.pm locally to the dir my CGI app is in? Any hints or direction would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081208/d9a523a5/attachment.htm From namonai at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 13:46:02 2008 From: namonai at gmail.com (Craig Kelley) Date: Mon Dec 8 13:11:49 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Managing Sessions using Perl without CGI.pm In-Reply-To: <9afbd5b90812081155v74f16ca9o88110cc369a74d46@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afbd5b90812081155v74f16ca9o88110cc369a74d46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <847993120812081246o62d272a2w9285fa29fb0085f8@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Nathan Lane wrote: > Can anybody explain to me the most secure and best way of managing sessions > using Perl CGI without being able to use CGI.pm? Or is it possible to copy > my own version of CGI.pm locally to the dir my CGI app is in? Any hints or > direction would be appreciated. You can certainly build your own CGI.pm module and put it wherever you like: http://search.cpan.org/dist/CGI.pm/ Just be careful to use your own copy of it. Here's more information on how to do that: http://modperlbook.org/html/3-9-1-Installing-Perl-Modules-into-a-Nonstandard-Directory.html You can also manage sessions with some kind of data store and cookie/hidden form variable/URI path information. Look at the Storable module, for example. -Craig -- http://inconnu.islug.org/~ink finger ink@inconnu.islug.org for PGP block From nathamberlane at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 13:56:46 2008 From: nathamberlane at gmail.com (Nathan Lane) Date: Mon Dec 8 13:22:39 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Managing Sessions using Perl without CGI.pm In-Reply-To: <847993120812081246o62d272a2w9285fa29fb0085f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afbd5b90812081155v74f16ca9o88110cc369a74d46@mail.gmail.com> <847993120812081246o62d272a2w9285fa29fb0085f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9afbd5b90812081256x1fee87c7yb141794038cd386b@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. I will look into these resources. Nathan On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Craig Kelley wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Nathan Lane > wrote: > > Can anybody explain to me the most secure and best way of managing > sessions > > using Perl CGI without being able to use CGI.pm? Or is it possible to > copy > > my own version of CGI.pm locally to the dir my CGI app is in? Any hints > or > > direction would be appreciated. > > You can certainly build your own CGI.pm module and put it wherever you > like: > > http://search.cpan.org/dist/CGI.pm/ > > Just be careful to use your own copy of it. Here's more information > on how to do that: > > > http://modperlbook.org/html/3-9-1-Installing-Perl-Modules-into-a-Nonstandard-Directory.html > > You can also manage sessions with some kind of data store and > cookie/hidden form variable/URI path information. Look at the > Storable module, for example. > > -Craig > > -- > http://inconnu.islug.org/~ink finger > ink@inconnu.islug.org for PGP block > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081208/00cb8e11/attachment.html From nathamberlane at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 15:10:22 2008 From: nathamberlane at gmail.com (Nathan Lane) Date: Mon Dec 8 14:36:09 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: How do I "require" or "use" a script that is next to my script? Message-ID: <9afbd5b90812081410ta53ac4chac96c75bf85f9bec@mail.gmail.com> I am not well-versed in Perl, but I have used a large number of programming languages effectively. On slightly similar scripting langugae I can think of is Ruby. In Ruby I am able to place a Ruby script next to the script I am running and in that script I can place module, function, and variables definitions. I can then "require" that file, simply like this: script1.rb ----------------- require "script2" script2.rb ----------------- $global1 = "Test Variable" How do I do the same thing in Perl? I can do this in PHP also using require_once, or use a namespace in C# with a using directive. Any help would be appreciated -- I am having a difficult time finding a substantial online resource for Perl, which is unlike C#, Ruby, and PHP, as there are several full online books that are available for free for those languages. -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081208/ac7b466c/attachment.htm From wattwood at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 15:14:53 2008 From: wattwood at gmail.com (William Attwood) Date: Mon Dec 8 14:42:17 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: How do I "require" or "use" a script that is next to my script? In-Reply-To: <9afbd5b90812081410ta53ac4chac96c75bf85f9bec@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afbd5b90812081410ta53ac4chac96c75bf85f9bec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f2da9a80812081414x51ce1e9cy3c7173f5315bde48@mail.gmail.com> "Perl's equivalents of "include" are use , require and do. However, all of those methods expect the file that you're including to be Perl code, not HTML." http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=533866 On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Nathan Lane wrote: > I am not well-versed in Perl, but I have used a large number of programming > languages effectively. On slightly similar scripting langugae I can think of > is Ruby. In Ruby I am able to place a Ruby script next to the script I am > running and in that script I can place module, function, and variables > definitions. I can then "require" that file, simply like this: > > script1.rb > ----------------- > require "script2" > > script2.rb > ----------------- > $global1 = "Test Variable" > > How do I do the same thing in Perl? I can do this in PHP also using > require_once, or use a namespace in C# with a using directive. Any help > would be appreciated -- I am having a difficult time finding a substantial > online resource for Perl, which is unlike C#, Ruby, and PHP, as there are > several full online books that are available for free for those languages. > > -- > Nathan Lane > Home, http://www.nathandelane.com > Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:14 PM, William Attwood wrote: > "Perl's equivalents of "include" are use > , require and do. > However, all of those methods expect the file that you're including to be > Perl code, not HTML." > http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=533866 > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Nathan Lane wrote: > >> I am not well-versed in Perl, but I have used a large number of >> programming languages effectively. On slightly similar scripting langugae I >> can think of is Ruby. In Ruby I am able to place a Ruby script next to the >> script I am running and in that script I can place module, function, and >> variables definitions. I can then "require" that file, simply like this: >> >> script1.rb >> ----------------- >> require "script2" >> >> script2.rb >> ----------------- >> $global1 = "Test Variable" >> >> How do I do the same thing in Perl? I can do this in PHP also using >> require_once, or use a namespace in C# with a using directive. Any help >> would be appreciated -- I am having a difficult time finding a substantial >> online resource for Perl, which is unlike C#, Ruby, and PHP, as there are >> several full online books that are available for free for those languages. >> >> -- >> Nathan Lane >> Home, http://www.nathandelane.com >> Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081208/c2f13f3f/attachment-0001.htm From fozz at xmission.com Mon Dec 8 15:38:58 2008 From: fozz at xmission.com (Doran L. Barton) Date: Mon Dec 8 15:04:55 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: How do I "require" or "use" a script that is next to my script? In-Reply-To: <9afbd5b90812081410ta53ac4chac96c75bf85f9bec@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afbd5b90812081410ta53ac4chac96c75bf85f9bec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812081539.03078.fozz@xmission.com> On Monday 08 December 2008 15:10:22 Nathan Lane wrote: > How do I do the same thing in Perl? I can do this in PHP also using > require_once, or use a namespace in C# with a using directive. Any help > would be appreciated -- I am having a difficult time finding a substantial > online resource for Perl, which is unlike C#, Ruby, and PHP, as there are > several full online books that are available for free for those languages. And if you have Perl installed, you have PODs on your system too: perldoc perl The "perl Way" to do what you're asking is to create a package -- a .pm file. For example: package Foo; sub a { ... } sub b { ... } 1; And then, in bar.pl: use lib '/directory/where/Foo.pm/is'; use Foo; Foo::a(); The *best* way to do this is to turn the package into an object: package Foo; sub new { my $class = shift; my $self = (); bless $self, $class; return $self; } sub a { my $self = shift; ... } 1; And then, in your Perl script: use Foo; my $foo = Foo->new(); $foo->a(); You can learn all this stuff from the PODs that are already on your system if you don't want to go buy the Llama or Camel O'Reilly books. For example: perldoc perlboot Why do I get the nagging feeling SLLUG, PLUG, or UTOS needs to sponsor a Perl fundamentals workshop soon? -- Doran L. Barton - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and more! "Let's reduce noise by ourselves." -- Seen in a Tokyo traffic handbook -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081208/bb8e379c/attachment.pgp From nathamberlane at gmail.com Mon Dec 8 16:19:14 2008 From: nathamberlane at gmail.com (Nathan Lane) Date: Mon Dec 8 15:45:03 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: How do I "require" or "use" a script that is next to my script? In-Reply-To: <200812081539.03078.fozz@xmission.com> References: <9afbd5b90812081410ta53ac4chac96c75bf85f9bec@mail.gmail.com> <200812081539.03078.fozz@xmission.com> Message-ID: <9afbd5b90812081519tf23e637k3ae408d0a7ae34c9@mail.gmail.com> Thanks that really adds to my perl repertoire. I will see what I can do with that. Nathan On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Doran L. Barton wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2008 15:10:22 Nathan Lane wrote: > > How do I do the same thing in Perl? I can do this in PHP also using > > require_once, or use a namespace in C# with a using directive. Any help > > would be appreciated -- I am having a difficult time finding a > substantial > > online resource for Perl, which is unlike C#, Ruby, and PHP, as there are > > several full online books that are available for free for those > languages. > > And if you have Perl installed, you have PODs on your system too: > > perldoc perl > > The "perl Way" to do what you're asking is to create a package -- a .pm > file. > > For example: > > package Foo; > > sub a { > ... > } > > sub b { > ... > } > > 1; > > And then, in bar.pl: > > use lib '/directory/where/Foo.pm/is'; > use Foo; > > Foo::a(); > > The *best* way to do this is to turn the package into an object: > > package Foo; > > sub new { > my $class = shift; > > my $self = (); > > bless $self, $class; > > return $self; > } > > sub a { > my $self = shift; > > ... > } > > 1; > > And then, in your Perl script: > > use Foo; > > my $foo = Foo->new(); > > $foo->a(); > > You can learn all this stuff from the PODs that are already on your system > if > you don't want to go buy the Llama or Camel O'Reilly books. For example: > > perldoc perlboot > > Why do I get the nagging feeling SLLUG, PLUG, or UTOS needs to sponsor a > Perl > fundamentals workshop soon? > > -- > Doran L. Barton - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and > more! > "Let's reduce noise by ourselves." > -- Seen in a Tokyo traffic handbook > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can do this in PHP also using >> > require_once, or use a namespace in C# with a using directive. Any help >> > would be appreciated -- I am having a difficult time finding a >> substantial >> > online resource for Perl, which is unlike C#, Ruby, and PHP, as there >> are >> > several full online books that are available for free for those >> languages. >> >> And if you have Perl installed, you have PODs on your system too: >> >> perldoc perl >> >> The "perl Way" to do what you're asking is to create a package -- a .pm >> file. >> >> For example: >> >> package Foo; >> >> sub a { >> ... >> } >> >> sub b { >> ... >> } >> >> 1; >> >> And then, in bar.pl: >> >> use lib '/directory/where/Foo.pm/is'; >> use Foo; >> >> Foo::a(); >> >> The *best* way to do this is to turn the package into an object: >> >> package Foo; >> >> sub new { >> my $class = shift; >> >> my $self = (); >> >> bless $self, $class; >> >> return $self; >> } >> >> sub a { >> my $self = shift; >> >> ... >> } >> >> 1; >> >> And then, in your Perl script: >> >> use Foo; >> >> my $foo = Foo->new(); >> >> $foo->a(); >> >> You can learn all this stuff from the PODs that are already on your system >> if >> you don't want to go buy the Llama or Camel O'Reilly books. For example: >> >> perldoc perlboot >> >> Why do I get the nagging feeling SLLUG, PLUG, or UTOS needs to sponsor a >> Perl >> fundamentals workshop soon? >> >> -- >> Doran L. Barton - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and >> more! >> "Let's reduce noise by ourselves." >> -- Seen in a Tokyo traffic handbook >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> > > > -- > Nathan Lane > Home, http://www.nathandelane.com > Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081208/e7e3a72c/attachment.html From nathamberlane at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 07:27:05 2008 From: nathamberlane at gmail.com (Nathan Lane) Date: Tue Dec 9 06:52:56 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: How do I "require" or "use" a script that is next to my script? In-Reply-To: <7f2da9a80812081524o3b654d40ibc755fa6b3c6a4f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afbd5b90812081410ta53ac4chac96c75bf85f9bec@mail.gmail.com> <200812081539.03078.fozz@xmission.com> <9afbd5b90812081519tf23e637k3ae408d0a7ae34c9@mail.gmail.com> <7f2da9a80812081524o3b654d40ibc755fa6b3c6a4f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9afbd5b90812090627i4721f34ve8009b072e0c949c@mail.gmail.com> Is CPAN like the gem repository for Ruby? On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:24 PM, William Attwood wrote: > CPAN is also a great repository for Perl. > > www.cpan.org > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Nathan Lane wrote: > >> Thanks that really adds to my perl repertoire. I will see what I can do >> with that. >> >> Nathan >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Doran L. Barton wrote: >> >>> On Monday 08 December 2008 15:10:22 Nathan Lane wrote: >>> > How do I do the same thing in Perl? I can do this in PHP also using >>> > require_once, or use a namespace in C# with a using directive. Any help >>> > would be appreciated -- I am having a difficult time finding a >>> substantial >>> > online resource for Perl, which is unlike C#, Ruby, and PHP, as there >>> are >>> > several full online books that are available for free for those >>> languages. >>> >>> And if you have Perl installed, you have PODs on your system too: >>> >>> perldoc perl >>> >>> The "perl Way" to do what you're asking is to create a package -- a .pm >>> file. >>> >>> For example: >>> >>> package Foo; >>> >>> sub a { >>> ... >>> } >>> >>> sub b { >>> ... >>> } >>> >>> 1; >>> >>> And then, in bar.pl: >>> >>> use lib '/directory/where/Foo.pm/is'; >>> use Foo; >>> >>> Foo::a(); >>> >>> The *best* way to do this is to turn the package into an object: >>> >>> package Foo; >>> >>> sub new { >>> my $class = shift; >>> >>> my $self = (); >>> >>> bless $self, $class; >>> >>> return $self; >>> } >>> >>> sub a { >>> my $self = shift; >>> >>> ... >>> } >>> >>> 1; >>> >>> And then, in your Perl script: >>> >>> use Foo; >>> >>> my $foo = Foo->new(); >>> >>> $foo->a(); >>> >>> You can learn all this stuff from the PODs that are already on your >>> system if >>> you don't want to go buy the Llama or Camel O'Reilly books. For example: >>> >>> perldoc perlboot >>> >>> Why do I get the nagging feeling SLLUG, PLUG, or UTOS needs to sponsor a >>> Perl >>> fundamentals workshop soon? >>> >>> -- >>> Doran L. Barton - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and >>> more! >>> "Let's reduce noise by ourselves." >>> -- Seen in a Tokyo traffic handbook >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >>> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >>> sllug-members@sllug.org >>> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nathan Lane >> Home, http://www.nathandelane.com >> Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. >> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah >> sllug-members@sllug.org >> http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <31e8ff2a0812090732w31125dc9pcca04215f2973744@mail.gmail.com> References: <9afbd5b90812081410ta53ac4chac96c75bf85f9bec@mail.gmail.com> <200812081539.03078.fozz@xmission.com> <9afbd5b90812081519tf23e637k3ae408d0a7ae34c9@mail.gmail.com> <7f2da9a80812081524o3b654d40ibc755fa6b3c6a4f4@mail.gmail.com> <9afbd5b90812090627i4721f34ve8009b072e0c949c@mail.gmail.com> <31e8ff2a0812090732w31125dc9pcca04215f2973744@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9afbd5b90812090804h6260de69x9bd89f7127e2e62c@mail.gmail.com> That is true, more correct :) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Russ wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Nathan Lane wrote: > '> Is CPAN like the gem repository for Ruby? > > I would argue that gem is like CPAN for Perl, but yes. > > -- > wwjd for a Klondike Bar? > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But first, a word from our sponsor: Higher-Order Perl is copyright 2005 by Elsevier Inc. Unauthorized reproduction or distribution is absolutely forbidden. In particular, note that although the text is available for free, Higher-Order Perl is not in the public domain and is not available under a free license of any sort. I distribute it from my web site by virtue of special permission from the publisher. You, most likely, do not have any such permission. YOU CAN GET IT FROM: http://hop.perl.plover.com/book/ There are two versions available. You have your choice of structure or presentation, but not both. PDF VERSION http://hop.perl.plover.com/book/pdf/ This is the publisher's own PDF proof of the second version, which was sent to the printers in August 2005. This is better than the bootleg copies available from download sites in at least three ways: * It is the complete text of the *second* printing, which incorporates many minor corrections; the bootleg copies are all bootlegs of the first printing. * It does not have a nasty little grafitto advertising a vainglorious bootlegger plastered on every page. * It was come by honestly, not stolen from the printer. MOD VERSION http://hop.perl.plover.com/book/mod/ These are the original sources that I used to generate the manuscript draft that I first sent to the publisher. They are written in MOD, a variation on the "pod" markup in which Perl's documentation is written. It should be self-explanatory. If not, drop me a note. The big drawback of this version is that it not only omits the corrections that were added between the first and second printings, but also the much more significant corrections that were added before the first printing. FREQUENTLY-ASKED QUESTION Q. What took you so long? A. I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locust's. It wasn't my fault!! I swear to God!! No, that's not right. It's totally my fault. I'd explain, but it would feel too much like making excuses. Also you probably don't care about the mundane details of my life for the past four years. And anyway, even if I rehearsed the whole thing, you would be quite justified in asking, at the end of the long story, "So I don't get it. What too you so long?" You may remember I wanted to turn the book into a wiki. That would have been awesome. But the book's fourth anniversary is coming up this spring and I have to admit to myself that I'm not gonna get the wiki together. So I'm posting the thing already. If anyone else wants to try to turn it into a wiki, drop me a note. 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Remo From aaron.toponce at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 11:38:13 2008 From: aaron.toponce at gmail.com (Aaron Toponce) Date: Thu Dec 11 11:04:03 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Willing to present In-Reply-To: <494159CA.4050908@unum5.org> References: <200812110953.10039.fozz@iodynamics.com> <1229015131.3456.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200812111035.19842.fozz@iodynamics.com> <7f2da9a80812111013g23a184b7k38523e7ca3b04701@mail.gmail.com> <494159CA.4050908@unum5.org> Message-ID: <20081211183813.GF14042@sol.pthree.org> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:19:54AM -0700, Kyle Waters wrote: > Aaron, you should email the sllug people about a bind meeting :) At a request of another, I'm willing to present to SLLUG on DNS or packet filtering (or both), as I offered the same to PLUG. If interested, let me know. -- _ Aaron Toponce ( ) ASCII Ribbon Campaign www.aarontoponce.org X www.asciiribbon.org / \ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Our Camp is looking for free web page hosting for our camp website. We are at the point where our existing donation of web space is not adequate. We have some Compaq web servers that have been donated to our camp. We are looking for an organization to let us plug our servers into their high speed pipe. We have been given 2 servers and would be willing to donate one to you in return for your donation to our camp. Our main goal is to never have to remove our photo pages from our site. We would like past diabetic campers to be able to view their camp photos later in life. We would like to add more interactive media and video that would require more space. We eventually would like to set up our web page so that parents could pay their camp fee online. Our camp fee is the lowest of any diabetic camp in the USA. We can do this because all our staff Doctors, Pharmacists, Nurses, Counselors, and Staff are totally volunteer. Our camp fee provides food and activities for campers, no administrative costs at all. Please let me know if you are able to help, or know of someone capable of providing this support. Thank You. Karl R. Steenblik Foundation for Children and Youth with Diabetes Webmaster fcydcamp.org -- Foundation for Children and Youth with Diabetes Webmaster fcydcamp.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081212/b6a19149/attachment.htm From bmidgley at xmission.com Sat Dec 13 10:24:32 2008 From: bmidgley at xmission.com (Brad Midgley) Date: Sat Dec 13 09:50:20 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Dec. 2008 SLLUG meeting! Monday, December 8, 2008!!! In-Reply-To: <493856B0.8030507@sllug.org> References: <493856B0.8030507@sllug.org> Message-ID: <4943EFD0.1070202@xmission.com> Hey > In lieu of our SLLUG meeting for December 2008, we will be attending the > University of Utah School of Computing Organick Lecture Series > presenting Ed Catmull. this was an awesome talk! I didn't have much confidence for turning Disney around, but it sounds like Catmull is leading the charge well. For one thing, it sounds like the top-down hierarchy of leadership in Disney was squelching good creative talent down the ranks. There's a lot more to Pixar's success than simply "the story is everything" sort of mantra... they do a lot of other things right too. Brad From unum at unum5.org Mon Dec 15 09:36:28 2008 From: unum at unum5.org (Kyle Waters) Date: Mon Dec 15 09:02:19 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Foundation for Children and Youth with Diabetes ..... We need a place to put our web server. In-Reply-To: <6f024a9e0812121821r3581c14mef4e2f3e44e3b6d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <6f024a9e0812121821r3581c14mef4e2f3e44e3b6d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4946878C.5000809@unum5.org> karl steenblik wrote: > Web Hosting > > Donation of High Speed Pipe. > > We are a local non-profit charity called The Foundation for Children > and Youth with Diabetes. We started providing diabetic camps and > support for parents with children with diabetes in 1962. All staff at > our camp is volunteer, this includes our medical staff for about 100 > children. > > With the digital age our camp has had to adapt to new technology. > We has a website that is in progress that supports our parents while > their children are away. > > Our Camp is looking for free web page hosting for our camp website. > We are at the point where our existing donation of web space is not > adequate. > XMission provides free web hosting to many non-profits. They are an excellent web hosting service(and the company owner is an early member of this group). I highly recommend you contact them and ask if they have any space available for you at this time. Kyle From dhales2 at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 06:30:25 2008 From: dhales2 at gmail.com (Dan Hales) Date: Wed Dec 17 05:56:05 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: On Board Audio (RealTek ALC662) Not Found in Ubuntu Message-ID: Would someone be willing to offer a suggestion? I have a mother board with onboard audio running ubuntu. The onboard audio is a RealTek ALC662. When I was running 8.04 the audio worked (half level) but it worked. A recent upgrade to 8.10 with a new nvidia PCIx video card and the computer no longer finds the audio. aplay -l lists no audio devices at all now. Nothing I've tried seems to make it possible for the computer to find the audio device now. Any thoughts or recommendations would be much appreciated. Thanks Dan S. Hales -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081217/12e9c02f/attachment.html From justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 09:17:36 2008 From: justinbrinkerhoff at gmail.com (Justin Brinkerhoff) Date: Wed Dec 17 08:43:18 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: On Board Audio (RealTek ALC662) Not Found in Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f932a4a0812170817w7b570a73neb036223ce29849f@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dan, If you run "lspci" in your shell, does it list the PCI device? Thanks, Justin On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Dan Hales wrote: > Would someone be willing to offer a suggestion? > > I have a mother board with onboard audio running ubuntu. The onboard audio > is a RealTek ALC662. When I was running 8.04 the audio worked (half level) > but it worked. > > A recent upgrade to 8.10 with a new nvidia PCIx video card and the computer > no longer finds the audio. > > aplay -l lists no audio devices at all now. Nothing I've tried seems to > make it possible for the computer to find the audio device now. > > Any thoughts or recommendations would be much appreciated. > > Thanks > Dan S. Hales > > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > > From kahn at xmission.com Thu Dec 18 11:05:24 2008 From: kahn at xmission.com (Micheal Kahn) Date: Thu Dec 18 10:31:08 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: best book on Laus Message-ID: <20081218110524.l4ujx1mlog0k08go@webmail.xmission.com> hey folks, I've recently inherited back up admin duties on a couple RHEL boxes. Once of the things I've been charged with doing is configuring Laus on the boxes. I've got it installed at this point but I've not had a chance to really get my head around the configuration. I'm looking for a good book that might help point me in the right direction. Thoughts/suggestions? Thanks, Jon. -- "Lately, the only thing keeping me from being a serial killer is my distate for manual labor." -- Dilbert From dave at thesmithfam.org Sun Dec 28 19:08:08 2008 From: dave at thesmithfam.org (Dave Smith) Date: Sun Dec 28 18:33:29 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: In need of old network adapter Message-ID: <49583108.8080006@thesmithfam.org> Pluggers and Slluggers (please excuse the x-post): A teenager in my neighborhood is learning about Ethernet LANs. He wants to network his home desktop and an old laptop. I agreed to help, but his laptop does not have a built-in Ethernet port. To that end, I wonder if anyone has either a PCMCIA Ethernet adapter or a USB Ethernet adapter that they would like to donate to the cause. TIA! --Dave From travis.fisher at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 20:31:39 2008 From: travis.fisher at gmail.com (Travis & Melody Fisher) Date: Sun Dec 28 19:57:15 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: In need of old network adapter In-Reply-To: <49583108.8080006@thesmithfam.org> References: <49583108.8080006@thesmithfam.org> Message-ID: <5ea2aae70812281931v5e50fb31n7f38c968a76b9ce6@mail.gmail.com> I have an old 3Com 3CCFE574BT with the dongle in Kearns. If that's close by you can have it. Travis - It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves. ~ Sir Edmund Hillary On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > Pluggers and Slluggers (please excuse the x-post): > > A teenager in my neighborhood is learning about Ethernet LANs. He wants to > network his home desktop and an old laptop. I agreed to help, but his laptop > does not have a built-in Ethernet port. To that end, I wonder if anyone has > either a PCMCIA Ethernet adapter or a USB Ethernet adapter that they would > like to donate to the cause. > > TIA! > > --Dave > ______________________________________________________________________ > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah > sllug-members@sllug.org > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://sllug.org/pipermail/sllug-members/attachments/20081228/50f423ff/attachment.htm From greg_green at sisna.com Mon Dec 29 18:03:19 2008 From: greg_green at sisna.com (Greg Green) Date: Mon Dec 29 17:28:53 2008 Subject: [sllug-members]: Re: In need of old network adapter In-Reply-To: <200812291900.mBTJ04gt025896@sllug.org> References: <200812291900.mBTJ04gt025896@sllug.org> Message-ID: Hi Dave - I'm in South Jordan. I have a Microsoft MN-120 10/100 Ethernet adaptor (PCMCIA Type II CardBus), or a Belkin Wireless G Notebook Card, model F5D7010v7. I'm not using either and you are welcome to one or both. Greg