[sllug-members]: Best Computer Science School in Utah
Thomas S Hatch
thatch45 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 24 23:37:53 MDT 2007
The U and BYU are both rated Tier 1 schools and USU a tier 2 school. If you
have a choice I would recommend the U or the Y, but USU also has an
excellent program. I recently fled from the program at SUU, their
department chair was involved in some unsavory business and in the space of
a year 5 CS profs left the school, many left without jobs to go to. SUU is
back on track but thier program most likely will take a few years to build
back up.
Just try to get into the U or the Y, they don't cost much more and are both
nationally recognized schools, in most of the rating I have read the U is
rated higher (particularly in graduate programs)
On 9/24/07, Dave Smith <dave at thesmithfam.org> wrote:
>
> On 9/24/07, John Anderson <sontek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Whats the best (in your humble opinion) computer science school in Utah?
>
>
> Steve wrote:
> > School of Hard Knocks,
> > Hands down fastest way to learn is by doing.
>
> This may be true except for the fact that the School of Hard Knocks
> doesn't actually offer a Computer Science degree, which is unfortunate,
> because a CS degree is a very valuable credential in my opinion. :)
>
> If you want a CS degree, you can't beat BYU in Utah. Although I doubt
> the educational value is much different from the University of Utah's CS
> program, or USU's for that matter. I associate daily with people who
> have degrees from all three of the aforementioned schools (and a few
> others like SUU and UVSC), and they are all equally capable of doing
> their job as software engineers. BYU's CS program will likely have more
> recognition outside of Utah than the other Utah schools. That's probably
> just because about 75% of BYU students are from out-of-state, so when
> they return home to work, the school gets free advertising.
>
> I have also observed that, salary-wise, graduates from the "Big 3" tend
> to make about equal money, but they make on average a bit more than
> those who graduated from the other, less recognized Utah schools. Along
> those same lines, the software engineers I know who have a CS degree
> from one of the "Big 3" make about twice as much as those who have no CS
> degree at all, but with equal work experience. No offense to those who
> don't have a degree, just stating what I've observed. And again, that
> statement is based on a limited sample.
>
> Whatever you choose, the value you get from a CS degree will vary
> largely based on the effort you apply. I saw many students at BYU get
> through by the skin of their teeth who, at graduation time, would
> struggle with simple CS concepts, but I also saw many stellar students
> who really took it to the next level educationally and were already
> creating impressive work by the time they graduated. I've seen the same
> quality variance among U of U CS graduates.
>
> Good luck!
>
> --Dave
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