[sllug-members]: Comcast has problems

[Josh Coates]

thanks for that stellar flame job allen and making this discussion personal. 

since I think you may actually be serious, i'll take the bait and comment on your points:

>I'll be using >300GB this month on comcast, since I'm doing full disk
>backups of 2 machines prior to moving service providers. Does that
>mean that backing up my data is 'stupid' ?

in your case, yes.  uploading 300GB over Comcast (386 kbps upload speed) means it would take you over 70 days to perform this operation under the best of circumstances.  why would you take monopolize your upstream bandwidth 24/7 for two months just to switch service providers?  you ask if i think this is stupid?  yes, it probably is.

>Remote mysql binlogging

do you know any home users that mirror 250GB mysql databases that get 250GB of new records every month - oh, and for non-business use?  i didn't think so.

>Keeping a cluster of freebsd/debian/gentoo/redhat/whatever machines up to date

250GB of apt-get update?  every month?  um...maybe 25GB but 250?  nuh uh.

>Running a home-based business where you're hitting windowsupdate on <250 completely unpatched machines every month

i'm not a lawyer, but i'm pretty sure running a home based business off of a home Comcast line is against the EULA.  and if it isn't, then it would be stupid to try run your business on it when your business is large enough to require 250 work stations.

even still, the patches are very small.  the server packs can be burned on CDs and a local server can be setup.  again, you'd have to be stupid admin to try and do it over the WAN on 250 machines.

>Giving free wifi to your neighbors

maybe if you gave free wifi to a couple of hundred of your neighbors it would add up 250GB per month, and again, IANAL, but i'm pretty sure this is against the comcast EULA.

allen, if you have anything useful to add to the discussion, that'd be great.

otherwise, your bridge is thattaway.  ;-)

-josh

-----Original Message-----
From: sllug-members-bounces at sllug.org [mailto:sllug-members-bounces at sllug.org] On Behalf Of Allen Parker
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:06 PM
To: Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions
Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Comcast has problems

On 1/22/07, Josh Coates <jcoates at archive.org> wrote:
> >I find your response out of line.
>
> i don't understand why.  using a few GB per month seems perfectly normal to
> me.
>
> using 250GB per month means you are either doing something illegal or
> stupid.
>
> in this case, sentinel is in the latter category (nothing personal) for
> letting his computer get taken over for a month by some irc virus.
>
> -josh

I'll be using >300GB this month on comcast, since I'm doing full disk
backups of 2 machines prior to moving service providers. Does that
mean that backing up my data is 'stupid' ? If you've got an opinion on
another user's usage patterns, I'm thinking you should keep them to
yourself unless your entire point is to be a troll. If your purpose
*is* to be a troll, your bridge is thattaway.

Here's a couple perfectly legit ways to download 250GB/mo:
Remote mysql binlogging
Keeping a cluster of freebsd/debian/gentoo/redhat/whatever machines up to date
Running a home-based business where you're hitting windowsupdate on
<250 completely unpatched machines every month
Giving free wifi to your neighbors
... And I'm sure there's many more.

Just because you can't comprehend that there might be valid reasons
for other people to download massive amounts of data doesn't mean that
there isn't, so please, leave your opinion at the door if you don't
really know what you're talking about.

Allen Parker
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