[sllug-members]: Re: sllug-members Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7
David Mamanakis
dave.mamanakis at gmail.com
Fri Feb 16 09:12:39 MST 2007
I have a question about SquirrelMail, and other items...
Is there a good web site, or instruction set in setting these up?
Some easy 1, 2, 3 instructions?
I am running Postfix and Dovecot, but I am interested in expanding my
functionality...
SquirrelMail and SpamAssassin...
Thanks for any pointers...
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> 1. Mail server question (Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC)
> 2. Re: Mail server question (Adam Cantwell)
> 3. Re: Mail server question (Knight Walker)
> 4. Re: Mail server question (Remo Mattei)
> 5. RE: Mail server question (Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC)
> 6. Looking for a presenter for next week's SLLUG meeting.
> (Marc Christensen)
> 7. Re: Mail server question (Remo Mattei)
> 8. RE: Mail server question (Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC)
> 9. Re: Mail server question (Doran L. Barton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:38:53 -0700
> From: "Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC" <mark.k.spute at L-3com.com>
> Subject: [sllug-members]: Mail server question
> To: <sllug-members at sllug.org>
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> <6E6FDBA30C063741B032129B4F2CAFF90EF7D3 at MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com>
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> I currently have a mail server running sendmail without procmail or
> spamassasin, and I get about 500 spam messages per day. I want to use
> spamassasin to cut down on the spam, but at the same time, since I'm messing
> with the system, I'd like to add the capacity to access my e-mail via the
> internet from other locations. As I mentioned, I'm running sendmail as my
> POP3 server, and using thunderbird to access it.
>
> If I switch to dovecot can I get rid of sendmail? Dovecot claims to be
> both a POP3 and an IMAP server.
>
> What would be the best way to transition? ie-
>
> 1. remove sendmail
> 2. Install and configure dovecot
> 3. Install and configure procmail
> 4. Install and configure spamassasin
> 5. Massage until they all work together
>
> Or is another order better.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Mark
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> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:51:06 -0700 (MST)
> From: "Adam Cantwell" <ajc at leezer.net>
> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Mail server question
> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions"
> <sllug-members at sllug.org>
> Message-ID: <2682.208.186.177.10.1171572666.squirrel at mail.leezer.net>
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> The other order is: www.qmailtoaster.com
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Thu, February 15, 2007 1:38 pm, Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC wrote:
> > I currently have a mail server running sendmail without procmail or
> > spamassasin, and I get about 500 spam messages per day. I want to use
> > spamassasin to cut down on the spam, but at the same time, since I'm
> > messing with the system, I'd like to add the capacity to access my
> e-mail
> > via the internet from other locations. As I mentioned, I'm running
> > sendmail as my POP3 server, and using thunderbird to access it.
> >
> > If I switch to dovecot can I get rid of sendmail? Dovecot claims to be
> > both a POP3 and an IMAP server.
> >
> > What would be the best way to transition? ie-
> >
> > 1. remove sendmail
> > 2. Install and configure dovecot
> > 3. Install and configure procmail
> > 4. Install and configure spamassasin
> > 5. Massage until they all work together
> >
> > Or is another order better.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Mark
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links.
> > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah
> > sllug-members at sllug.org
> > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:59:17 -0700
> From: Knight Walker <kwalker at kobran.org>
> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Mail server question
> To: Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions <sllug-members at sllug.org>
> Message-ID: <1171573157.3909.19.camel at nc6320.kobran.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain
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> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 13:38 -0700, Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC wrote:
> > I currently have a mail server running sendmail without procmail or
> > spamassasin, and I get about 500 spam messages per day. I want to use
> > spamassasin to cut down on the spam, but at the same time, since I'm
> > messing with the system, I'd like to add the capacity to access my
> > e-mail via the internet from other locations. As I mentioned, I'm
> > running sendmail as my POP3 server, and using thunderbird to access
> > it.
> >
> > If I switch to dovecot can I get rid of sendmail? Dovecot claims to
> > be both a POP3 and an IMAP server.
> >
> > What would be the best way to transition? ie-
> >
> > 1. remove sendmail
> > 2. Install and configure dovecot
> > 3. Install and configure procmail
> > 4. Install and configure spamassasin
> > 5. Massage until they all work together
> >
> > Or is another order better.
>
> You're a little confused. Sendmail is not a POP3 server, it's an SMTP
> server. The difference is that SMTP transports mail from server to
> server and POP3/IMAP transports mail from server to client.
>
> That said, you can use Dovecot with Sendmail just fine. Personally, I
> prefer Postfix, but I did use Sendmail prior and it worked well enough.
>
> What you would probably want to do is:
>
> 0. Find out what you're really using for POP3 (imapd-2002?)
> 1. Install and configure dovecot
> 2. Install and configure Procmail and Spamassassin. These two are
> inter-related in most systems I've seen.
> 3. Massage until they work together.
>
> Also, if you want to check your e-mail "via the internet", you'll want
> to switch to IMAP, as that allows you to keep all your mail on your
> server, and can thus access it via Evolution, Thunderbird, SquirrelMail,
> and anything else that's not retarded when using IMAP (I only mention
> Outlook because it mostly works with IMAP).
>
> -KW
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:10:23 -0700
> From: Remo Mattei <remo at italy1.com>
> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Mail server question
> To: Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions <sllug-members at sllug.org>
> Message-ID: <45D4CC3F.1090600 at italy1.com>
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>
> http://shupp.org/toaster is one of the best one.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Remo
>
> Adam Cantwell wrote:
> > The other order is: www.qmailtoaster.com
> >
> > Enjoy.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> > On Thu, February 15, 2007 1:38 pm, Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC wrote:
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links.
> > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah
> > sllug-members at sllug.org
> > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members
> >
> > !DSPAM:45d4ca6f287291492418586!
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:17:51 -0700
> From: "Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC" <mark.k.spute at L-3com.com>
> Subject: RE: [sllug-members]: Mail server question
> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions"
> <sllug-members at sllug.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6E6FDBA30C063741B032129B4F2CAFF90EF7D4 at MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> [snip]
>
> You're a little confused. Sendmail is not a POP3 server, it's an SMTP
> server. The difference is that SMTP transports mail from server to
> server and POP3/IMAP transports mail from server to client.
>
> Yup. Just a little.
>
> That said, you can use Dovecot with Sendmail just fine. Personally, I
> prefer Postfix, but I did use Sendmail prior and it worked well enough.
>
> What you would probably want to do is:
>
> 0. Find out what you're really using for POP3 (imapd-2002?)
>
> How do I find that out?
>
> 1. Install and configure dovecot
> 2. Install and configure Procmail and Spamassassin. These two are
> inter-related in most systems I've seen.
> 3. Massage until they work together.
>
> Also, if you want to check your e-mail "via the internet", you'll want
> to switch to IMAP, as that allows you to keep all your mail on your
> server, and can thus access it via Evolution, Thunderbird, SquirrelMail,
> and anything else that's not retarded when using IMAP (I only mention
> Outlook because it mostly works with IMAP).
>
> Okay. What I really want to do is use IMAP to check my mail at work, and
> then download it via Thundebird using POP3 to my workstation at home later
> that evening. I don't want to keep everything on the server, I just want to
> be able to read it during the day from work.
>
> Mark
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links.
> Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:20:36 -0700
> From: Marc Christensen <marc at sllug.org>
> Subject: [sllug-members]: Looking for a presenter for next week's
> SLLUG meeting.
> To: SLLUG Members <sllug-members at sllug.org>, SLLUG-officers
> <sllug-officers at sllug.org>
> Message-ID: <45D4CEA4.7070007 at sllug.org>
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>
> Hey all,
>
> we're looking for a presenter for the SLLUG meeting next week. If
> you're doing something fun/interesting/entertaining or just plain cool
> at work or on your own with Linux and would like to do a presentation on
> said subject, send an email to comments at sllug.org
>
> The meeting will be next Wednesday, the 21st of February at 7:10. plan
> on having about 45 minutes for the presentation.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Marc Christensen
> http://www.sllug.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:37:47 -0700
> From: Remo Mattei <remo at italy1.com>
> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Mail server question
> To: Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions <sllug-members at sllug.org>
> Message-ID: <45D4D2AB.8020004 at italy1.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>
>
> Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > You're a little confused. Sendmail is not a POP3 server, it's an SMTP
> > server. The difference is that SMTP transports mail from server to
> > server and POP3/IMAP transports mail from server to client.
> >
> > Yup. Just a little.
> >
> > That said, you can use Dovecot with Sendmail just fine. Personally, I
> > prefer Postfix, but I did use Sendmail prior and it worked well enough.
> >
> > What you would probably want to do is:
> >
> > 0. Find out what you're really using for POP3 (imapd-2002?)
> >
> > How do I find that out?
> >
> > 1. Install and configure dovecot
> > 2. Install and configure Procmail and Spamassassin. These two are
> > inter-related in most systems I've seen.
> > 3. Massage until they work together.
> >
> > Also, if you want to check your e-mail "via the internet", you'll want
> > to switch to IMAP, as that allows you to keep all your mail on your
> > server, and can thus access it via Evolution, Thunderbird, SquirrelMail,
> > and anything else that's not retarded when using IMAP (I only mention
> > Outlook because it mostly works with IMAP).
> >
> > Okay. What I really want to do is use IMAP to check my mail at work,
> and then download it via Thundebird using POP3 to my workstation at home
> later that evening. I don't want to keep everything on the server, I just
> want to be able to read it during the day from work.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> You can use Thunderbird to use imap and get the folder offline as well.
> This is how i do my personal email checking as well.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
> Remo
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links.
> > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah
> > sllug-members at sllug.org
> > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links.
> > Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah
> > sllug-members at sllug.org
> > http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members
> >
> > !DSPAM:45d4cf84321891336712104!
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:50:42 -0700
> From: "Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC" <mark.k.spute at L-3com.com>
> Subject: RE: [sllug-members]: Mail server question
> To: "Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions"
> <sllug-members at sllug.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6E6FDBA30C063741B032129B4F2CAFF90EF7D5 at MAIL2.csw.l-3com.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sllug-members-bounces at sllug.org
> [mailto:sllug-members-bounces at sllug.org]On Behalf Of Remo Mattei
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:38 PM
> To: Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions
> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Mail server question
>
> [snip]
>
>
> > Okay. What I really want to do is use IMAP to check my mail at work,
> and then download it via Thundebird using POP3 to my workstation at home
> later that evening. I don't want to keep everything on the server, I just
> want to be able to read it during the day from work.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> You can use Thunderbird to use imap and get the folder offline as well.
> This is how i do my personal email checking as well.
>
> However at work I am restricted to using Outlook for e-mail, and I cannot
> connect it to anything other than the company's webserver. I can't run
> Thunderbird at work. Plus, I do not want to download any personal e-mail at
> work. I just want to be able to check my personal e-mail at home using my
> web browser at work. (Sorting through a couple hundred e-mails each night
> is bothersome; that's why I need procmail/spamassasin or equiv to reduce the
> load. Being able to browse my e-mail as it arrives will allow me to delete
> what isn't important, and keep what is.) I'll read and delete anything that
> isn't worth saving, and then download and reply to what's left when I get
> home in the evening.
>
> Mark
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:30:10 -0700
> From: "Doran L. Barton" <fozz at xmission.com>
> Subject: Re: [sllug-members]: Mail server question
> To: Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions <sllug-members at sllug.org>
> Message-ID: <45D4ED02.1000202 at xmission.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Spute, Mark K @ CSW-SLC wrote:
> > However at work I am restricted to using Outlook for e-mail, and I
> cannot
> > connect it to anything other than the company's webserver. I can't run
> > Thunderbird at work. Plus, I do not want to download any personal
> e-mail
> > at work. I just want to be able to check my personal e-mail at home
> > using my web browser at work. (Sorting through a couple hundred e-mails
> > each night is bothersome; that's why I need procmail/spamassasin or
> equiv
> > to reduce the load. Being able to browse my e-mail as it arrives will
> > allow me to delete what isn't important, and keep what is.) I'll read
> and
> > delete anything that isn't worth saving, and then download and reply to
> > what's left when I get home in the evening.
>
> Okay. I concur about dovecot. It's a great POP and IMAP server. You
> probably
> ARE using procmail since it is the de facto local delivery agent used with
> Sendmail. SpamAssassin 3.1.x is what I would use for spam processing.
>
> For web-based e-mail, I like OpenWebMail, but SquirrelMail is pretty nice
> too.
>
> -=Fozz
>
> --
> Doran L. Barton <fozz at xmission.com> - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and
> more!
> "There will be a Moscow Exhibition of Arts by 150,000 Soviet Republic
> painters and sculptors. These were executed over the past two years."
> -- From the Soviet Weekly
>
>
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